Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver

Vacation: When you apply a vacation slide or expansion, the Company can not schedule you for training on a "V" day or any day inclusive of an expansion footprint. If for example you have vacation week 2 and can expand all the way to touch a trip at the end of the month, than the Company can not put training anywhere in that footprint. V days count towards min days off as well, so if you have 7 V days plus your remaining trips and training days has to = 15 or less days of work. If you protect min days off and bid training on regular "off" days then they would have to drop trips/r days to get you back to min days off.

Training: You can bid training on any day that is not a "V" day, so if you bid for training on an expansion day, that would be awarded if your seniority can hold that slot. If you bid one that touches a trip then that trip drops as CIC. I assume you are trying to find a way to do it the old fashioned way and have them remove a trip for training with pay. This is a much tougher proposition than under the last contract. When a trip drops CIC you need to put in a make up request in the view/add window to cover the difference in the pay you get for training and the dropped trip. I think it is still possible to get removed for training with pay, but only if you are able to force it with Min day off protection, at least that is the way I see it.