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Originally Posted by iflyabeech
Acting PIC and logging PIC are two different things.
You cannot act as PIC in a tailwheel, complex, high altitude, or high performance a/c until you have received training and an endorsement from an authorized instructor.
You can log the time flown before the endorsement as PIC according to part 61. Check out the 61 regs and notice the difference between endorsements and ratings! Hope this helps!
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You can not log it unless you have the endorsement! Period! Read 61.51(e)(1)(i) again. Here I will paste it for you.
61.51
(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport, recreational, private, or commercial pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which that person—
(i) Is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated or has privileges;
You must have the endorsement which grants "privileges" to operate the aircraft as PIC. Furthermore, 1.1 states:
Pilot in command means the person who:
(1) Has final authority and responsibility for the operation and safety of the flight;
(2) Has been designated as pilot in command before or during the flight; and
(3) Holds the appropriate category, class, and type rating, if appropriate, for the conduct of the flight.
The way I see it, you can't log the PIC time without the high altitude endorsement. Chances are the Feds would say the same thing. Most employers want to see PIC time that falls under the definition in 1.1. You can probably get away with logging under 61.51 sole manipulator for insurance purposes.
Either way the simple answer would be to have the instructor you are flying with give you the required instruction for the high altitude endorsement so then you could log PIC time under 61.51 if you really have to have that "PIC" time in a King Air without being the real PIC. If you need further clarification just ask. Hope this helps!