Originally Posted by
L'il J.Seinfeld
I don't want a national seniority list. Besides how would that be fair to military guys?
Why wouldn't it be fair?
Originally Posted by
L'il J.Seinfeld
Why should a new regional FO be senior to a military newhire at UPS just because he was hired at a 121 airline?
Last I checked ALPA does not represent military pilots. ALPA also doesn't represent civilian flight instructors at part 61 schools... I am sure there are tons of pilots with great flying experience. If your going to make exceptions for military pilots, then make them for all pilots. There is no draft, those pilots chose to go into the military, just like other folks chose to stay with their family and stay instructors at their local airports.
The only way to be fair is to go by their first day as an ALPA pilot. As long as managements have the option to intentionally run their airline bankrupt, pull the cord on their golden parachute, use the court system to reorganize, or sell to another carrier.... then we ALL stand to lose our seniority at a moments notice under our current system.
Originally Posted by
L'il J.Seinfeld
It's not my fault that airline X goes bankrupt. Why should one of its pilots be senior to me when they come to my airline? Choose your horse carefully. There are tons of pilots at FDX and UPS who passed on Delta and United back in the 1990s because they wanted stability. Don't penalize them.
Our pilot groups, nationwide, are comprised of a wide variety of people, with an even wider variety of interests and concerns. The issue here is what is best for the majority, and what is best for the future of the profession. Your sacrificing the majority, and all the future pilots to come to save the minority.
Originally Posted by
L'il J.Seinfeld
I like your thoughts about making the industry better. I would like to see union leaders be non-pilots and be professional negotiators/lawyers.
Agreed, and if not, those types of people should be retained and be there at the table with us.
The single seniority list, as well as a national ALPA generic pilot contract need to be established. Each MEC should be prohibited from accepting anything less than the ALPA basic pilot contract. they should remain free to negotiate their own special perks and such tailored to their own airlines, but a national baseline for pilot contracts needs to be established.
It should run like the screen actors guild, and your seniority starts your first day as an ALPA pilot regardless of what airline. The retirement plans and such should all be run through ALPA, funded by contributions from each airline, so that the managements can't steal the money.
my 2 cents