Originally Posted by
Nevets
What I'm saying is that in the long run we will all be rewarded regardless of why someone went to work at MAG. Its exactly about not being greedy. We must all sacrifice a little, not be greedy, in order to improve the profession.
I didn't leave that detail out. I even mentioned that maybe this should not be retroactive to airlines that are no longer in existence. Like I already said, there will be some sacrifice (you call it punishment) but that is what its going to take to fix this mess once in for all. Its a shame this wasn't something thought of in the 30's when this profession began so know its up to us to make it how it should have been.
The Fee For Departure Work Group is already working on contract standards to be negotiated in when most of them come up for section 6 bargaining. This together with scope and seniority migration mechanisms built into them will eliminate the ability of managements creating alter ego airlines. Scope such as what Mesa and XJT have. And seniority migration such as the Canadian regionals have. These things are not just theories. They are proven everyday with existing contracts.
Its like any seniority integration. Most everyone is unhappy with it but once its done its behind you and with this idea it will never have to be addressed anymore in the future. Its a one time sacrifice for the betterment of the whole profession going forward.
If you just provide preferential interviews, you just play into mangament's ability to recycle pilots for cheaper first year pay. Its exactly what they count on. But with the Fee For Departure ideas implemented, managament loses the ability to whipsaw us against a cheaper carier because the pilots will have leverage with management's knowledge that they will not be able to recycle your career or hope you just leave the industry for the next starry eyed 22 year old (no offense to starry eyed pilots on their first job because I've been there before).
Just remember that your benevolent or employee friendly well run mangement at your current job or next one is not going to last forever. And you never know how the next management team is going to turn out. Lets make the sacrifice now and get it behind us so that pilots don't keep making sacrafices because of their poor mangement teams decade after decade after decade. Because like you said, there will always be awful mangement teams so there will always be pilots making that sacrfice to continue their profession if we don't fix this now.
We're going to have agree to disagree. I've already given enough, and the same goes with most guys/gals in the industry. I'm simply not willing to give any more particularly in a scenario where we would all collectively be rolling the dice. A national seniority while it has it's merits, it's certainly not bullet proof. We have a great scope here at XJT, but you and I both know that if the company enters chapter 11 that all would be gone, and all it takes is one alter ego to start picking up the pieces with their contract workers a la gojets. I am a huge ALPA supporter, but I can honestly tell you that if our MEC even considers voting on this, we'll be looking for a new union...this is a pretty wide concensus among our carrier, I suspect other would follow.