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Originally Posted by theleetbeagle
Okay, I just got off the phone with my local (Cleveland) FSDO.
We spoke at length about 3rd class procedures for color-deficient applicants.
The gist of the situation is this: Whatever my AME said was wrong. The light gun test is still applicable, albeit with certain changes. He explains those during the phone call.
The audio of the call is listed below. He placed me on hold at the end of this and we were disconnected. I was not recording when he called back, but we only spoke for a few minutes. He stated on the 2nd call to simply go get my physical and my AME will request Oklahoma City to mail out the OCVTA application to do the light gun test.
http://www.kcdaf.com/fsdo2.mp3
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He was def. wrong as far as I know... I'm currently going thru the same thing. As it stands the acceptable office based tests are:
Pseudoisochromatic plates Test book should be held 30" from applicant
Plates should be illuminated by at least 20’ candles, preferably by a Macbeth Easel Lamp or a Verilux True Color Light (F15T8VLX)
Only three seconds are allowed for the applicant to interpret and respond to a given plate
American Optical Company [AOC]
1965 1-15 AOC-HRR
2nd 1-11 Richmond-HRR
4th 5-24 Dvorine
2nd 1-15 Ishihara
14 Plate 1-11
24 Plate 1-15
38 Plate 1-21 Richmond,
15-plates
1983 1-15 Acceptable Substitutes: (May be used following the directions accompanying the instruments)
- Farnsworth Lantern;
- OPTEC 900 Color Vision Test;
- Keystone Orthoscope;
- Keystone Telebinocular;
- LKC Technologies, Inc., APT-5 Color Vision Tester;
- OPTEC 2000 Vision Tester (Model Nos. 2000PM, 2000PAME, and 2000PI);
- Titmus Vision Tester;
- Titmus II Vision Tester (Model Nos. TII and TIIS);
- Titmus 2 Vision Tester (Model Nos. T2A and T2S);
- Titmus i400
Any test not specifically listed above
are unacceptable methods of testing for FAA medical certificate. Examples of unacceptable tests include, but are not limited to, the OPTEC 5000 Vision Tester (color vision portion), "Farnsworth Lantern Flashlight," "yarn tests," and AME-administered aviation Signal Light Gun test (AME office use is prohibited).
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I am borderline... I can even pass the ishihara according to the FAA standards as long as the lighting conditions are correct. Sometimes the florescent lights make it harder, make mention of this. My advice is when you go for your medical, talk to the doctor and tell him you want to take the color vision test first, and if you fail you don't want to get your medical cert that day... This way he can't stamp you as 'not valid for night flight or by color signal control.' Then if you do fail his version of the test, make some calls to optometrists, optomertry colleges, other ame's, etc until you find a passable test listed above. You can print an FAA form and bring it to the optometrist and they can fill it out for you and you can bring it to the AME... Just do it within 30 days of going for the rest of your medical. Also bring the passing criteria from the FAA's website to the optometrist with you because the FAA allows more errors on certain tests. PM me if you need any more info.
Try the Dvorine, Keystone Telebinocular as well...
Can you see all of the colors in a rainbow?