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Old 07-04-2009, 06:59 PM   #67 (permalink)
jsled
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Originally Posted by JeremiahWeed View Post
Just read an interesting post on our site concerning this issue. Bedford has told us this exact thing. It's supposedly due to training cost but seems like there is something else brewing.

I'm not sure if all of you F9ers are aware of Bedford stating that your airline would be more profitable if half of the Airbuses were turned in and those same routes flown with 190's. This leads to an interesting predicament should you cave on scope. If you guys cave on scope, this does lend some credibility to his reason for wanting to keep the certs. seperate for training costs.

If the certs are kept seperate you'd have no place on our list and no protection so it would be cheaper for him to furlough rather than retrain you. If you guys don't cave on scope and force integration, you'd have to be retrained and most likely into the 190. Unless he sells 50% at which point, I'd still fight for integration as we certainly will be.

From a business standpoint, he'd rather furlough half of your group than retrain you on the 190.

Hope you guys/gals make the right decision. We are certainly going to do what ever we can to force integration but if you cave on scope, there won't be much we can do for you if he can get around our CBA by selling 50%.

Have also heard some rumors that some of your pilots see some good in caving on scope. For the life of me, I can't see any good coming from it.

Good luck.
"cave on scope"? Have you ever heard of section 1113(c) of the US bankruptcy code? It is a motion to reject a companies collective bargaining agreements. It is the "gun to your head" method that allows scope, pay rates, work rules, and pension plans to fall like a stone. Frontier already used it on the mechanics last September. Why not do it again for scope?
Here is my bet. I bet the lists will be kept seperate and one year from now, you RAH guys will still be flying your RJ's and F9 guys will be flying their Airbuses. But Toilet Boy will still be on here spewing his nonsense about his contract and merging...dah, dah, dah. Meanwhile, the wheel in the sky keeps turning, and nobody's getting any younger.
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