Originally Posted by sandstorm

Thanks for the great explanations. It's nice to know that you guys are unified and are trying contract improvements.

A couple other questions if you don't mind....

1) What would you say are the average days off per month for a jr line holder? 12-14 It really depends around here on many different variables. You just bid what you wnat and you may get it, i.e. a junior guy with 16-17 days off. People around here bid different ways every month for many reasons, such as pay, the amount of commercials to live flights on the pairing, long layovers, layover cities, certain days off, split lines, more days off, less days off,.... You may have an open line with the first 12 days off and not get called on until the 15th or 18th and maybe not used for the entire length of available days.

2) How does vacation work? Is there trip touching, golden days, etc? Or do you only get to drop the number of flying days that you are using vacation for? (ie 7 days of vacation means 7 days of flying off.)Vacation is a stupid system. You have 2 weeks of vac for the first 5 years and then it goes up from there. It doesn't work like any airline system you've ever seen. It's a pro-rated system based on how many days of vac for the month you have and how many your available to the company. Who needs vacation when you can bid the last 14 days of one month and the first 15 days of for the following month, for example. To hard to explain the system in writing and hopefully it will be changed in negs, but I doubt it.

3) I've read you guys are trying for business class intl DHing. What are the chances of that happening?