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Age 65 Rule Dec 13, 2007: Age 60 is now 65

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Old 06-07-2007, 03:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default UA pilot / APAAD advocate commits suicide

Recent Denver Post article

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_6061482
2007-06-05...Retired pilot Mark Zenner's daughter Christiana said her dad was "above all things, a pilot," adding that it was "the one place where I think he was truly at home." "Flying was not just a service or a job for him. It was spiritual," she said, four days after Zenner, who was 60 years old, committed...

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ZENNER, MARK EDWARD
Mark Edward Zenner was born in Brooklyn Naval Hospital May 26, 1947. He died May 31, 2007. First-born son of Capt. Harold Joseph and Jene Louise Zenner, he is survived by his parents, his wife Linda, his three daughters, Christiana, Courtney, and Lauren, his four brothers and sister, Bruce, Jim, Paul, Audrey, and John, and their children. His family is bereft and mourns the loss of their son, husband, brother, and father.
Mark was raised in a naval family and lived in many cities and states during his childhood. He attended high school in Santa Cruz, California and graduated in 1965. He attended Stanford University as a U.S. Naval ROTC student and was a member of Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity. After completing his bachelor's degree at Stanford in 1969, he began active duty with the U.S. Navy. He served the U.S. Navy as a combat pilot flying A7 Corsairs during the Vietnam war, and flew in support of his country off the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Enterprise.
Mark flew as a United Airlines pilot for 28 years following his naval career. He piloted DC-10 and Boeing 727, 737, 777, and 747 aircraft, most recently as a 747 captain. His life was devoted to his family and flying.
A memorial service will be held Monday, June 4, at 3:00 p.m. at St. Andrews United Methodist Church in Highlands Ranch.
In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to: Mark Zenner Grandchildren Education Trust. Please send checks to: Bruce D. Campbell, PC, 1507 Pine St., Boulder, CO 80302.
Published in the Denver Newspaper Agency on 6/3/2007.
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2006-12-10...At 59, Mark Zenner would like to keep working for a few more years. But because he's a pilot with a major U.S. airline, the Denver resident will be forced to retire when he turns 60 in May. The Federal Aviation Administration requires all U.S. pilots to stop flying large commercial passenger planes...
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First I feel very sorry for his family.
His actions were the most selfish that a person could do. Kill yourself b/c you can't fly as a 121 capt??? And he did it on the day he turned 60??? I hope people don't consider him a "martyr" for the cause...
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is sad to the point of tragic regardless of how we each feel about the Age 60 rule. Such a needless death and it ought to remind us that in all the debate about this issue, there are real human beings who have made this profession what it is today – a noble one and one worthy of the fight.

I do not consider him a martyr, but it does not detract me from the sadness any reasonable person feels on hearing the news of a suicide.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd say this guy had more issues than not being able to fly 121 anymore. Sad for his family. RIP.
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Old 06-07-2007, 05:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd say this guy had more issues than not being able to fly 121 anymore. Sad for his family. RIP.
My thoughts exactly.
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This story should focus on how a mentally unstable person has been able to pass 1st class medicals every 6 months. Condolences to his family.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd say this guy had more issues than not being able to fly 121 anymore. Sad for his family. RIP.
Indeed. Like so many approaching age 60 he placed his whole value on his job.

Get a hobby, enjoy your family, become involved in your community.

Quit being a hog who can't back away from the slop trough.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Although I am adamently opposed to the Age 65 fiasco, this is truly a tragedy. He knew for years he was going to be faced with retirement as a commercial airline pilot at 60. There's got to be more behind this than a guy who finally hits the proverbial wall and is forced to do as thousands before him have done. Nobody gains by his actions.
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