koz2000

The House took a vote and the FAA re-authorization bill passed today 267 to 151....

tone

Yes, but "Jorge W" hasn't put it in the shredder yet. The whitehouse says he will.

HercDriver130

Its not a bill until the prez signs it.

HSLD

How do you guys read this paragraph? To me it looks like the over age 60 guys on the panel may be sitting pretty:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...EQRPg:e105421:
If the link is broken go to Thomas.gov and search H.R.2881

Klako

It is about time!

Slice

Post again after W round files it with his veto!

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HSLD

I hear ya, I doubt the age 60 issue is the deal breaker, do you know what spending was attached that would rate a veto?

Slice

I've been reading the update via IPA emails and little around the web. I thought it had to do with FAA/ATC type funding issues.

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REAL Pilot

From what I have read, our CIC says he will veto the Faa bill if it includes provisions for the FAA controllers to organize/bargain with the gov. Which it does and therefore would require Continuing Resolutions until the bill could be resolved or overridden by Congress. That would delay implementation of the Age 65 provisions and make them "Collateral Damage"-temporarily anyway.

Klako

The Age 60 Rule is a system disorder that has been perpetuated in the airline industry now for over 60 years. Could today’s Age 60 Rule system disorder be a foreshadowing of our own dystopian future society? System disorders like the Age 60 Rule are usually brought about as a result of human action or inaction, whether stemming from human evil or mere stupidity; the result is a perpetual curse upon an otherwise healthy system. The only reason why the Age 60 Rule is still around today is because of the persistent opposition from the Airline Pilots Association (ALPA) and Allied Pilots Association (APA). ALPA and APA continue to succeed in preventing a change to the Age 60 Rule through their political influence within the FAA along with their lobbying efforts in Congress. The motive behind ALPA and APA resisting a change to the Age 60 Rule reflects the concerns of their junior pilots. The Age 60 Rule is thus a system disorder that has had little chance of being corrected because the pilot groups under age 50 will always represent the majority, maintaining their political power through the forced retirement of pilots over age 60. Junior pilots will always view the forced retirement of all pilots over the age of 60 as essential to their career progression. Thus the majority will always maintain command of a system that succeeds in eliminating competition from the minority. When pilots over the age of 50 finally come to the realization that the Age 60 Rule will adversely impact the remainder of their lives, it is too late as they are now members of the minority and have little power to effect a change.

The opposition from ALPA and APA begs the question; what legitimate labor union would actively support a rule which discriminates against its own members, forces them to leave their jobs and leaves them with reduced benefits? ALPA and APA have been milking the Age 60 rule for all it's worth for much to long a time.