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Peak? Are you insane? Peak is when one is 35 to 45, not an old man like you. Go enjoy your last years on Earth. Get a life, please. And this goes for all you old farts.
Peak? Are you insane? Peak is when one is 35 to 45, not an old man like you. Go enjoy your last years on Earth. Get a life, please. And this goes for all you old farts.
Clear evidence that ALPA/ALPA is now a dysfunctional labor union. When junior pilots advocate the wrongfully termination of employment of fellow pilots over age 60 just so younger pilots can up grade sooner, you have a broken union. This wasn’t always this way. The Airline Pilots Association (ALPA) at first fought hard to repeal the age 60 rule.
In 1968 this was ALPA’s official stance on the Age 60 Rule:
“ALPA CONTINUES OPPOSITION TO AGE 60 RETIREMENT RULE . The Air Line Pilots Association strongly advocates that the Federal Air Regulation in its arbitrary age 60 retirement provision is unreasonably discriminating against all of the air line pilots. Shortening a pilots career with no realistic justification is cheating the public as well as the industry. ALPA has expended and continues to expend its utmost efforts in attempting to overcome this highly dissatisfying and unfair federal regulation.”
Sadly, ALPA turned traitor to it’s senior members after supporting a change in the rule for over twenty years. ALPA has now institutionalized age discrimination as an accelerated job advancement scheme for its junior pilots. One would have to beg answers these questions: When did younger pilots became more valuable than experienced pilots?
Why would ALPA, a labor union, actively support a rule that discriminates against its own members, forces them to leave their workplaces and leaves them with reduced benefits?
ALPA President Henry Duffy’s made this statement in the 1990 Baker v FAA “It has never been my belief that professional expertise diminishes at age 60, on the contrary, our senior members possess a wealth of knowledge, aviation history, and insight that have been developed through their years of experience, which are irreplaceable”. He also stated during this testimony “Pilots over 55 comprise 5-6% of the total membership. The other 95% selfishly view the forced retirement of older pilots as their guaranteed path and a God given right to their promotions!”
Safety is the lie that ALPA and APA have been spouting to mask blatant ageism directed against its most senior pilots. In reality, they are promoting institutionalized age discrimination against senior pilots, insuring early promotions for junior pilots.
In July 1979 Captain J. J. O’Donnell, then president of ALPA, testifies before the House Public Works and Transportation Committee: Congressman Anderson: “I gather from your testimony before the Select Committee on Aging that some of your members do not want to see the Age 60 Rule ended. Do those who oppose ending the age 60 rule do so on the grounds of safety or economics?” Captain O’Donnell; “I would be misleading [to say that] they do it on the basis of safety. ... [i]t is economics to those who object to the change in the regulation.”
It is a disturbing situation when a labor union such as ALPA and APA could dictate to the rest of the United States airline industry when all airline pilots must retire. Our Constitution is supposed to protect those in the minority from the mal intensions of the majority. When the State deprives a person of their liberty to work in a profession that they are qualified, this violates that person’s equal protection guarantied by our Constitution under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Clear evidence that ALPA/ALPA is now a dysfunctional labor union. When junior pilots advocate the wrongfully termination of employment of fellow pilots over age 60 just so younger pilots can up grade sooner, you have a broken union. This wasn’t always this way. The Airline Pilots Association (ALPA) at first fought hard to repeal the age 60 rule.
In 1968 this was ALPA’s official stance on the Age 60 Rule:
“ALPA CONTINUES OPPOSITION TO AGE 60 RETIREMENT RULE . The Air Line Pilots Association strongly advocates that the Federal Air Regulation in its arbitrary age 60 retirement provision is unreasonably discriminating against all of the air line pilots. Shortening a pilots career with no realistic justification is cheating the public as well as the industry. ALPA has expended and continues to expend its utmost efforts in attempting to overcome this highly dissatisfying and unfair federal regulation.”
Sadly, ALPA turned traitor to it’s senior members after supporting a change in the rule for over twenty years. ALPA has now institutionalized age discrimination as an accelerated job advancement scheme for its junior pilots. One would have to beg answers these questions: When did younger pilots became more valuable than experienced pilots?
Why would ALPA, a labor union, actively support a rule that discriminates against its own members, forces them to leave their workplaces and leaves them with reduced benefits?
ALPA President Henry Duffy’s made this statement in the 1990 Baker v FAA “It has never been my belief that professional expertise diminishes at age 60, on the contrary, our senior members possess a wealth of knowledge, aviation history, and insight that have been developed through their years of experience, which are irreplaceable”. He also stated during this testimony “Pilots over 55 comprise 5-6% of the total membership. The other 95% selfishly view the forced retirement of older pilots as their guaranteed path and a God given right to their promotions!”
Safety is the lie that ALPA and APA have been spouting to mask blatant ageism directed against its most senior pilots. In reality, they are promoting institutionalized age discrimination against senior pilots, insuring early promotions for junior pilots.
In July 1979 Captain J. J. O’Donnell, then president of ALPA, testifies before the House Public Works and Transportation Committee: Congressman Anderson: “I gather from your testimony before the Select Committee on Aging that some of your members do not want to see the Age 60 Rule ended. Do those who oppose ending the age 60 rule do so on the grounds of safety or economics?” Captain O’Donnell; “I would be misleading [to say that] they do it on the basis of safety. ... [i]t is economics to those who object to the change in the regulation.”
It is a disturbing situation when a labor union such as ALPA and APA could dictate to the rest of the United States airline industry when all airline pilots must retire. Our Constitution is supposed to protect those in the minority from the mal intensions of the majority. When the State deprives a person of their liberty to work in a profession that they are qualified, this violates that person’s equal protection guarantied by our Constitution under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Studies have shown that reposting the same rhetoric over and over again is the first indicator of senility...fwiw.
Come on Klako. It is difficult for me to believe that you have turned sixty years old and think life is "fair". There are arbitrary ages set by all kinds of entities. From driving a car to the age that you can start drawing social security. Your story has become very tired...
An easy but faulty argument because the truth is that it will not pass the reality test. Possession is 9/10 of the law. You can deny a privilege before it is allowed but not after it has been earned.
Soooo, under your line of thinking no one should ever gain anything new ever again..... There is also something in legal terms called precedent. Pilots retire from 121 at age 60. That is reality.
Why not just come out and say you really don't care about age discrimination, you just oppose someone telling YOU what you can do.
But look on the bright side, I just got back from my great 121 job that I am quite happily enjoying flying a wide body jet. I saw a beautiful moon, sunrise and blue skies. That's what I possess. You may want to take it from me, but you can't. That is all carry on and continue to be bitter.
The United States Congress is considering legislation that would change the mandatory retirement age of U.S. airline pilots from 60 to 65.
There are four bills now in The U.S. Congress that would allow U.S. airline pilots the same privileges now given to foreign pilots who are presently allowed to fly in U.S. Airspace to age 65
In Favor of the Change:
The House of Representatives has 312 sponsor/ Cosponsors supporting H.R.1125
The Senate has 50 sponsor/Cosponsors supporting S.65
The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
The Airline Pilots Association, International (ALPA)
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
The Civil Aviation Medical Association
The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA)
The AARP
The Seniors Coalition
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
http://www.age60rule.com/docs/IBT_Submission_to_ARC_Panel.pdf
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) represents more than 1.4 million active members. The IBT Airline Division contracts now cover 43,000 airline industry workers including the pilots at the following airline companies:
· ABX Air
· Air Transport International (ATI)
· Amerijet
· Arrow Air
· Cape Air
· Centurion Air
· Custom Air Transport
· Express One
· Flight Options
· Great Lakes Aviation
· Gulfstream International
· Horizon Air
· Kalitta Air
· NetJets
· North American Airlines
· Shuttle America
· Southeast Airlines
· TransAir
· United Express (Great Lakes)
· U.S.A. 3000 Airlines
· Chautauqua
· World Airways
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There is also something in legal terms called precedent. Pilots retire from 121 at age 60. 
That is reality. 
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