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Age 65 Rule Dec 13, 2007: Age 60 is now 65

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Old 12-11-2007, 09:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default House Approves Change to the Upper Age Limit

House Approves Change to the Upper Age Limit
Language reflects ALPA Executive Board Resolution.
December 11, 2007



The U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation this evening that would raise the pilot mandatory retirement age to 65 by a unanimous vote of 390-0. The measure, introduced by House Transportation & Infrastructure Committee Chairman James Oberstar (D-Minn.), is identical to the language already included in the House and Senate Transportation Appropriations conference report, which is now ensnared in the larger, unrelated fight over completing this year’s spending bills.
“I salute Chairman Oberstar and his colleagues for this bold step,” said Capt. John Prater, ALPA’s president. “The legislation passed by the House of Representatives is consistent with ALPA’s Executive Board resolution that is designed to protect the interests of airline pilots and this Association.”

Instrumental in achieving passage of the legislation were House Aviation Subcommittee Chairman Jerry Costello (D-Ill.) and committee members Rep. Robin Hayes (R-N.C.) and Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.).

The Fair Treatment for Experienced Pilots Act, H.R.4343, was introduced this morning and placed on the House suspension calendar, which is a special procedure used to speed up action by setting aside the regular rules of order and requiring a two-thirds majority vote for passage of legislation.

In addition to allowing Part 121 airline pilots to fly up to age 65, H.R.4343 will clarify non-retroactivity, provide sufficient liability protection for unions, prohibit unilateral changes to labor agreements and benefit plans, eliminate the over/under split for domestic operations, and make the rule change effective as of the date the legislation is enacted.

The Senate will now have to decide whether to bring the measure up under their own procedural motion, known as unanimous consent, in which a legislative matter is considered agreed to if no Senator on the floor objects. The Senate has already once before unanimously approved the language of H.R.4343 in the form of the Stevens amendment during debate of the Transportation Appropriations bill on September 11.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great. Just what I was hoping to read tonight. My union president "saluting" something like this. I need to go puke now.
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I guess that it is inevitable. Would have been nice if it were just before my 60th though.

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Great. Just what I was hoping to read tonight. My union president "saluting" something like this. I need to go puke now.
At least Duane W. went with the majority (on this issue).
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GOD I hope Bush vetoes this like he said he would. I might actually like him if he does.

I don't usually pray...but I think I might over this.

How about we pass a bill called "the underpaid young regional ramen-eating pilot work fairness act" and keep the rich old 200K/year legacy pilots out of the left seat that THEY got BECAUSE OF age 60.
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What a bunch of BS! Age 65 is an arbitrary number! I want to work till 70! What is wrong with that? If I am able to pass the physical, I should be allowed to work.
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GOD I hope Bush vetoes this like he said he would. I might actually like him if he does.

I don't usually pray...but I think I might over this.

How about we pass a bill called "the underpaid young regional ramen-eating pilot work fairness act" and keep the rich old 200K/year legacy pilots out of the left seat that THEY got BECAUSE OF age 60.
Actually Bush said he would Veto it if they didnt come up with their own funding bill for it or something to that effect, but they have, so I doubt he'll veto it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Do you want to be forced out of your job at a certain age? I don't. Why not make it age 45? How many would be ****ed off then? You people are only worried about where you sit right now. There's no rational as to why there needs to be a limit. Anyone that's capable should be able. It's like you're wanting to stick it to a fellow co-worker for no reason besides your selfishness. Where's the unity? All it does it open more doors for the rest of us. Worrying about it is just a huge "ME ME ME" tantrum. I don't know if I'll want to work that long but I don't want the decision to already be made for me when I'm perfectly capable.

AFWIW I don't see Bush actually standing on this one since the government has acknowledged that pilots are a commodity in our population that we are running out of.
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At least Duane W. went with the majority (on this issue).
That's your opinion. I and many others would strongly disagree.


and Toiletduck...

You're right. Peoples opinions are shaped by where they sit. If your view stinks, the thought of having that view for an extra five years can be daunting. Your view must be pretty good.

Nice touch calling nicholasblonde a whiner then saying "where's the unity?" Maybe you could send him a cut of your paycheck when you fly past 60 to make up for his lost wages?....No? "Where's the unity?"
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