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Now I'm certain I know how you change lightbulbs- you hold up your had for about 4 days while the earth revolves around you to tighten the bulb.
I'm sure 65 isn't enough for you. Neither will 67 or 70 be enough. You want to work to death or think you have some QOL left after some medical exam someday throws you out of the cockpit. You still won't be able to retire that way.
Whose judgement do you trust to end your flying? Your own? Your doctor's? Your checkpilot? Don't sweat it, that's rhetorical.
You are HIDING behind a self-interested change of context to the Constitution that directly affronts a majority.
You read like a Freeman in the woods, not a part 121 PIC.
Get the clue- 65 passed to save the bottom line of airlines/lobbies/big business and the Pension backing arm of the Gov't. You didn't win anything, and you'll keep on watching the age slide to the right following the bottom line. You just happen to have missed saving a job change by a few birthdays.
You are just labor, your clue has long ago sailed from the station and your village doesn't want you back.
Last edited by MoosePileit : 12-23-2007 at 04:34 PM.
Reason: addressing the elder troll of post part 121 partum
See Klako shows his true hand...... we all knew would never be satisifed his is like a ***** on crack its never enough....he was was shafted so he wants to continue with the shaft to all he can, you are a wretched piece of crap..... many of us stated months ago that 65 was would never be enough for the likes of him.... the only respite is that that old geezer was already over 60 when it happened so all he can do is go in the bathroom and get his jollies off while laughing at every ones expense......
and yes im sure i will suffer a some sort of ban for calling him what he is... but facts is facts.... let the ban begin......
Get the clue- 65 passed to save the bottom line of airlines/lobbies/big business and the Pension backing arm of the Gov't. You didn't win anything, and you'll keep on watching the age slide to the right following the bottom line. You just happen to have missed saving a job change by a few birthdays.
You are just labor, your clue has long ago sailed from the station and your village doesn't want you back.
Well said. There was a big political machine behind this whole change. The government is tired of bailing out many things. If someone delays retirement they are helping out many things. More taxes into the system, delaying collecting SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Delayed pension benefits for the company....the list can go on. The pilot shortage and experience in the cockpit was NOTHING but POLITICAL.
When you are at the end of your career there are generally two types of people: Those with a plan and those without. Dont be one without a plan...you just will not know what to do with yourself. I watched my dad do this for a couple of years till he figured it out. Not being prepared for retiring, whatever the age, will kill you!!!
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Age at retirement and long term survival of an industrial population: Prospective Cohort Study Results Subjects who retired early at 55 and who were still alive at 65 had a significantly higher mortality than those who retired at 65 (hazard ratio 1.37, 95% confidence interval 1.09 to 1.73). Mortality was also significantly higher for subjects in the first 10 years after retirement at 55 compared with those who continued working (1.89, 1.58 to 2.27). After adjustment, mortality was similar between those who retired at 60 and those who retired at 65 (1.06, 0.92 to 1.22). Mortality did not differ for the first five years after retirement at 60 compared with continuing work at 60 (1.04, 0.82 to 1.31). Conclusions Retiring early at 55 or 60 was not associated with better survival than retiring at 65 in a cohort of past employees of the petrochemical industry. Mortality was higher in employees who retired at 55 than in those who continued working. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/331/7523/995
“Early Retirement May Mean Earlier Death”--- Primary source: British Medical Journal Source reference: http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDisease/PublicHealth/tb/1980"Age at retirement and long-term survival of an industrial population: prospective cohort study," BMJ, published online Oct. 20, 2005. “…Study found that retiring at age 55 was associated with an almost two-fold greater risk of dying compared with employees who postponed retirement until their 60s…investigators found that embarking on the Golden Years at age 55 doubled the risk for death before reaching age 65, compared with those who toiled beyond age 60…”
Exactly!!
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"facts IS facts"??? Depends on what your definition of is is. You wrote that like a **** on crack. Where'd you go to grammar school anyway?? If that's a sample of the command of the English language you used when you were writing all those letters to your congressman no wonder it passed. You and your minions are probably the best thing the APAAD ever had going for it.
Last edited by ATlineholder : 12-24-2007 at 03:18 AM.
Having trouble posting AT? Congratulations on "your" win, just do not expect those of us who will suffer because of it to simply "make nice" with the same people who stuck the knife in our backs. Good day sir.
"facts IS facts"??? Depends on what your definition of is is. You wrote that like a **** on crack. Where'd you go to grammar school anyway?? If that's a sample of the command of the English language you used when you were writing all those letters to your congressman no wonder it passed. You and your minions are probably the best thing the APAAD ever had going for it.
Try listening to the guy we call our Commander in Chief if you want to see someone with a real command of the English language...........
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I love internet toughguys. What is he going to do, hit you with his colestomy bag! Put your Depends down there nibblenuts and go get your senior citizen's discount at Denny's. I heard you can gum a steak in about three hours.....
If we can get our beloved Senators to make an amendment to the age 65 deal such that, when any age 60+ pilots get their medicals renewed, a herbal enema (flush out all the bad toxins) is part of the mandatory 1st class physical, we'll see then how many senior citizens are chaffing at the bit to continue flying into their golden years. This would also make the AME work a little harder for that $100 five minute fix.
I love internet toughguys. What is he going to do, hit you with his colestomy bag! Put your Depends down there nibblenuts and go get your senior citizen's discount at Denny's. I heard you can gum a steak in about three hours.....
May I use your post as evidence proving that the airline industry is still plagued with AGE DISCRIMINATION?
The message to every pilot now flying for an airline and all aspiring airline pilots is age alone must not be a barrier to flying for the airlines. Junior pilots, although they may not realize it now, they will very likely want to at least have the choice of whether to continue flying past age 60 or not. I can guarantee that the majority will not want to stop flying when they reach age 60.
The Age 60 rule was changed because Congress finally received enough public attention and the the public is finally taking note of the plight of senior airline pilots, many who are veterans, were being forced out of work, loosing their pensions, being forced to go overseas to work while foreign pilots over age 60 can fly in this country. Nothing gets politicians out of office like bad press, and not standing for seniors and military veterans is very BAD PRESS. Junior pilots do not vote and Congress is not will no longer support the greed in junior airline pilot at the expense senior pilots, many who are veterans forced out of their own country just to work in their profession.
Progress required that the age 60 rule be changed and that GREEDY junior pilots must no longer get their free will in stealing jobs from senior pilots. Even the union PAC fund blood money can no longer buy out Congress any more.
The issue is now about the blatant AGE DISCRIMINATION among junior union members and because of that most of the Congress is finally became weary of APA and ALPA's dirty politics. Next will come the law suits and the FAA, ALPA and APA will have hell to pay for the harm done by age discrimination.
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