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The point, which you obviously missed, was whether those that were such a cheerleader for the age 65 law are now happy with what's happened to their careers. Pilots are now not only stagnant, but going BACKWARDS in their career progression.
NO now they are cheering for 70 or no limit. Think I am kidding go to the APAAD web site and see for yourself.
I've noticed at my carrier that I'm moving BACKWARDS on the seniority list. Twelve numbers in the past three months. This age 65 ruling is REALLY starting to hurt not just current pilots, but career advancement. I had a seniority analysis run and pre-65 ruling I would have retired around #1000 at CAL. Now it is approximately #1800!!!!! Now I see that oil AND the age 65 law are resulting in airlines putting perspective pilots in "pools" with no real idea of when hiring or classes will continue. Just when we thought things were finally getting better.......................
WAA! WAA! WAA!
At least you still have a job.
What about the thousands of airline pilots who were forced into unemployment before the age 65 rule? There are just too many of them who lost their pensions, who at one time worked for Braniff, Pan Am, Eastern Frontier, or other carriers gone bankrupt, merged or otherwise forced to seek employment elsewhere, starting on probation wages.... again. Many had four or five different uniforms in their closet, gaining seniority only in age, and needed to work beyond age 60 to enjoy a decent retirement. The age 65 rule came too late for too many pilots who are now suffering the guillotine of the “Age 60 Rule”.
Most, if not all, smaller or newer carriers do not have a fixed benefit retirement. Only the largest major airlines have the big pensions, and therefore they are unhappy with the change. However, with the demise of the younger hiring age, newer pilots at even the larger companies that still have pensions should realize the possibility of inadequate pensions at age 60. For those pilots, retiring at age 60 would become their worst nightmare.
Those people at age 60 KNEW what the retirement age was. There should be NO surprise in this. They milked the age 60 and enjoyed all the retirements of those senior to them only to pull the ladder up when it was their turn. They are collectively giving all of their fellow union members and pilots the bird!! Fly till you die!! Sounds nice doesnt it
Yeah, in many cases (most) they were promised retirements that never happened. They never promised you (or anyone else junior) squat. You may have been sold a bill of goods by your buddies or your own false expectations. Quit whining and fly the jet.
Yes, I was forced out of my airline career by the damn age 60 rule but now I am an Army Aviator again, flying with the U.S. Army, HUA!
Sad that you get little sympathy! Those senior pilots had their pension stolen by judges and management. That is really sad.....
With the backward movement many are now seeing = pay cuts. These pay cuts mean less B fund contributions. Not just expectations not realized, but actual money out of our paychecks!
Now those senior pilots are stealing the retirement of those junior to them!
That is UNFORGIVABLE!!!!
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