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Old 05-18-2007, 10:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What does it mean to say that an airplane is "IFR Certified"? I assume it's a matter of having specific navigation equipment, but what? Anything that allows you to do other than a visual approach?
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Basically it means that the airplane is certified to fly in other than VFR condition. It must meet a separate set of requirements and undergo periodic inspections to remain certified. Basically extra equipment required is:

Generator/or/alternator
Radios (2 way)
Attitude Indicator
Turn Coordinator
Clock
Anti collision lights
DG
DME (only if above FL240)

I think this list is correct..... lol, its been a while since school for me...haha
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Me either but I always use GRAB CARDS.
generator
radio
attitude indicator
battery
clock
airspeed
rate of turn
directional gyro
soft drinks

Seriously, here is the link http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...trument,flight

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So it's nothing at all to do with instrument approach capability. I'm surprised. Constantly. Thanks guys.
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Me either but I always use GRAB CARDS.
generator
radio
attitude indicator
battery
clock
airspeed
rate of turn
directional gyro
soft drinks

Seriously, here is the link http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...trument,flight

Hey Diver gorgeous kitty.
Ha. Thanks... that's his crash helmet...lol. I like your version that adds soft drinks, we were taught to use GRABCARD(D), with the last D being DME... I like the inclusion of drinks though, I think catering should be in there somewhere too...

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So it's nothing at all to do with instrument approach capability. I'm surprised. Constantly. Thanks guys.
Nope... you are required to have all equipment required for an approach if you are going to fly that approach. Within that are checks like every 30 days your VOR indicator has to be checked to be current for VOR approaches. An example would be not having an ADF installed... I cant fly an NDB approach... obviously... because I dont have the ADF. Now if there is an approved GPS overlay and my GPS/database is current and approved, then I can go right in. If you have a copy of the FAR/AIM, check out 91.205 and memorize it, they will ask you these questions on your checkride. Your instructor should go over these with you extensively before your test.
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the FAR link, Cub. Diver, I think this is your cat's CINC:
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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lol, he looks like royality... "TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER!"

I must be dumb, what is CINC?
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"CINC"--war movie shorthand for "commander-in-chief." Like CINCPAC/commander-in-chief, Pacific, or CINCLTBX/commander-in-chief, Litter Box.

Thanks also for the explanation of where the approach capabilities come in, Diver and for the recommendation on studying the FAR. I'm not an instrument student yet--I'm just finishing up my PPL. I just keep seeing "IFR Certified" in ads for old Cherokees for sale and wondered what it meant avionics-wise. Not much, it turns out!
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"CINC"--war movie shorthand for "commander-in-chief." Like CINCPAC/commander-in-chief, Pacific, or CINCLTBX/commander-in-chief, Litter Box.

Thanks also for the explanation of where the approach capabilities come in, Diver and for the recommendation on studying the FAR. I'm not an instrument student yet--I'm just finishing up my PPL. I just keep seeing "IFR Certified" in ads for old Cherokees for sale and wondered what it meant avionics-wise. Not much, it turns out!
Well, it means more than you might think. Buying an airplane that is not IFR certified may mean that no navigation equipment or radio equipment (including transponder) is installed and that could get costly very fast. If you plan on buying an airplane and getting your instrument rating, get an IFR certified aircraft so you dont have to fool around with getting new equipment installed, etc.. At least you will know that a sensitive altimeter is installed, a VOR and/or ADF is in there, if you are lucky an approach approved GPS, radios, transponder, etc... Check the logs too and make sure the ELT, transponder, pitot static, etc... checks have been done as well within the preceding required amount of time.

Thanks for the explanation, I would have never guessed what CINC meant...lol
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