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Old 02-09-2008, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are the general systems in the 737 models similar? I am trying to decide if I take my 737-200 system academics notes to a major carrier training that will be flying the newer versions... For example, are the critical memory items, the limitations and the electrical diagram the generally same?
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would not even worry about it. Every carrier has their own training with company specific checklists and procedures. My buds at SWA said that as long as you put in a little effort in studying during initial training, you will do fine. No need to study in advance.
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Old 02-11-2008, 04:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't have a perfect answer for you, but...

I'm in 737-800 training now at Delta. In the training center, we have some -200 sims that we rent out to other folks and there is a -200 cockpit poster in one of the briefing rooms. The -200 overhead panel looks largely similar to the -800 in it's guts, i.e. the basics of generators, packs, etc are all in the same spots with the same basic switch functions from what I can tell by looking at it. The 800's panel goes digital in spots where the -200s is analog, but it's all in relatively the same place. From what I heard from the 737 managment here, the reason the -800's panel is this way (i.e. not as "modern" as the airplane itself) is because SWA wanted it to be relatively similar to the other models for consistency...and since they have bought an awful lot of 737s (including -200s I think), they obviously have some pull.

From that, I can only guess that most of the guts are probably the same, or at least pretty similar. The avionics (all glass in the -800), the FMS, the autopilot stuff...that's probably all different.

I have no idea about similarity of recall items, etc, but I'm guessing they are at least close...it can't hurt to bring what you've got if that was useful to you at one point. The stuff they give you here is not necessarily the best for quick learning, in my opinion. It's like going to UPT or the B-course and not getting any systems classes. They just give you the Dash one and say "read this and do a couple of these CBITS and let me know if you have any questions before the test, which oh by the way, is next week."...i.e. it's largely self taught, which from what I hear is similar at most carriers right now.

So...I'd bring your notes. I can't tell you how much time I spent digging through the books to piece together concepts that were actually pretty basic, but not spelled out clearly at my level of understanding. I'm a fighter dude, so a lot of the heavy airplane systems/concepts are not self-explanatory to me. The books even say "this is written for the experienced pilot"...it actually means experienced in THIS airplane.

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Old 02-11-2008, 06:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great, thanks for the input! I have heard similar comments about the trng and hope the detailed 737 academics I have received returns from the cobwebs of my brain...
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yah, mon. No worries.

Where are you going to work?
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Continental...looking forward to it too
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Good luck. I'm sure you know this, but it's a WAY different world on the other side of the fence.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I will learn very soon...hopefully, it is a steep learning curve.
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Are the general systems in the 737 models similar? I am trying to decide if I take my 737-200 system academics notes to a major carrier training that will be flying the newer versions... For example, are the critical memory items, the limitations and the electrical diagram the generally same?
Thanks!
Well speaking from experience, as a current 737NG instructor, I'd say leave your "Jurassic" notes at home. I'm actually currently training a guy who used to fly the -200 and he's made numerous comments about the differences.
Also, the memory recall items have changed over the years.
Electrical? You don't have to worry about electrical "limits" really - you don't even check the voltage of the different elec sources (though you have the capability to still)...
Also, other [old] instuctors I work with often tell me how surprised they were about the NG being the same type as the -200s, because I guess they are so different. Not to mention all the glass and FMC upgrades...
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Try this website. http://www.b737.org.uk/ Not airline specific but hopefully it helps.
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