AMR Files For Bankruptcy
11-29-2011, 04:25 AM
#31
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labor issues
Why is the press once again making out it is mainly the employees fault? The labor costs are too high. Give me a break. The industry has had no significant pay raises since 2000, and that was catch up for the 90's. How about management bonuses and golden parachutes?
I expect all those that rushed to retire in the last couple of months are very happy they did. Will the courts come after their lump sums? If so I expect a rush of divorces and money going to ex wives. Just like CAL.
Good luck to all AMR employees and don't give them even more. United did twice and it screwed everyone in the whole industry. Stick to your guns, and stick together.
I expect all those that rushed to retire in the last couple of months are very happy they did. Will the courts come after their lump sums? If so I expect a rush of divorces and money going to ex wives. Just like CAL.
Good luck to all AMR employees and don't give them even more. United did twice and it screwed everyone in the whole industry. Stick to your guns, and stick together.
11-29-2011, 04:33 AM
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How many start jumping ship as of Dec 1st?
With retirements increasing and recalls now even more likely to defer or run to the hills. How will AA position itself to get new hires while in BK?
Good luck to all at AA and Eagle. Stand tall and fight for what you deserve.
With retirements increasing and recalls now even more likely to defer or run to the hills. How will AA position itself to get new hires while in BK?
Good luck to all at AA and Eagle. Stand tall and fight for what you deserve.
11-29-2011, 04:38 AM
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How will this affect new hires? I'm starting class with Eagle in January. Is that going to happen?
When the other majors filed for bankruptcy, what exactly did happen? Are pilots going to be furloughed? What is the foreseeable future for Eagle?
Sorry if any of these questions are obvious, but I just moved to the USA a couple months ago and have no idea what to expect of a situation like this.
When the other majors filed for bankruptcy, what exactly did happen? Are pilots going to be furloughed? What is the foreseeable future for Eagle?
Sorry if any of these questions are obvious, but I just moved to the USA a couple months ago and have no idea what to expect of a situation like this.
11-29-2011, 04:38 AM
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Sorry to hear about this fellers and ladies, good luck and God speed. I have several great friends over there, and my prayers are with them and the AA family.
I have watched in disbelief as a loyal passenger, AAdvantage member and a hometown fan as this great company has had numerous missteps in the past decade. I can only say that most (with few exceptions in the past few years) of the frontline employees have been amazing and very helpful, courteous and hardworking. It really is upsetting to know that the roller coaster ride my good friends have had to deal with in this last round of CBA negotiations was all just wasted time, as it appears the company was negotiating only for PR, and not in good faith. As a free market, Austrian economist believer, it breaks my heart to see bad management, cronyism and a total lack of vision and dedication ruin the lives of so many. My hope is that emerging from BK, you ALL have a shared vision going forward, and return to your former glory.
Again, my thoughts and prayers for all involved.
I have watched in disbelief as a loyal passenger, AAdvantage member and a hometown fan as this great company has had numerous missteps in the past decade. I can only say that most (with few exceptions in the past few years) of the frontline employees have been amazing and very helpful, courteous and hardworking. It really is upsetting to know that the roller coaster ride my good friends have had to deal with in this last round of CBA negotiations was all just wasted time, as it appears the company was negotiating only for PR, and not in good faith. As a free market, Austrian economist believer, it breaks my heart to see bad management, cronyism and a total lack of vision and dedication ruin the lives of so many. My hope is that emerging from BK, you ALL have a shared vision going forward, and return to your former glory.
Again, my thoughts and prayers for all involved.
11-29-2011, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
So how long until a merger is announced?
After steamrolling the fellow professionals from RENO and TWA, would you want to merge seniority lists with American ?
I have to believe other airlines have steered away from American for this reason.
11-29-2011, 04:41 AM
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Do you miss Gerry ?
Don't worry after he drinks all the champagne and eats all his caviar, and enjoys his nice soft landing from his parachute; he'll be back in some capacity to take even more employee wages and buy another villa in Western Mexico.
Don't worry after he drinks all the champagne and eats all his caviar, and enjoys his nice soft landing from his parachute; he'll be back in some capacity to take even more employee wages and buy another villa in Western Mexico.
11-29-2011, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by unitedflyier
Why is the press once again making out it is mainly the employees fault? The labor costs are too high. Give me a break. The industry has had no significant pay raises since 2000, and that was catch up for the 90's. How about management bonuses and golden parachutes?
I expect all those that rushed to retire in the last couple of months are very happy they did. Will the courts come after their lump sums? If so I expect a rush of divorces and money going to ex wives. Just like CAL.
Good luck to all AMR employees and don't give them even more. United did twice and it screwed everyone in the whole industry. Stick to your guns, and stick together.
I expect all those that rushed to retire in the last couple of months are very happy they did. Will the courts come after their lump sums? If so I expect a rush of divorces and money going to ex wives. Just like CAL.
Good luck to all AMR employees and don't give them even more. United did twice and it screwed everyone in the whole industry. Stick to your guns, and stick together.
11-29-2011, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Continental didn't
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