Originally Posted by cactusmike

No! The reason for saying that is because the LCC pilots are immaterial to whether the merger goes through or not. Because the APA is so much larger the process is driven by their agreement with Parker and the UCC. We, being the smaller group, will just come under their contract once a merger is consummated.

All the MOU does is provide a bridge to a joint contract. It sets the framework for the integration process and modifies the existing contracts in certain respects to close the gap between what each side has in place.. As an example, pay was said to be the APA term sheet pay on the merger date and be retroactive to January 1st 2013. That would be a modification to both east and west contracts.

The MOU would also set out how the timeline and the process for watching a joint contract would be done. It would also set out the mechanism for the SLI. Since the APA has already agreed to this MOU then these details are set between the majority pilot group and the new company management. So USAPA is invited to the party, but the party will still go on even if they say no. And they will get dragged into the party in the end but they will not get to choose who they dance with.

Originally Posted by flybywire44

What source said retroactive pay from January 1st, 2013?

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

There's that PESKY "change in control" language in the east cba...Although DP seems to think that his LAWYERS could circumvent that provision, it brings to light the specter of possible litigation by the east, that may gum-up the process. If DP and the UCC could consummate the merger without input from USAPA, they would have done it by now without the "dog and pony shop" called an MOU...Just my .02$

Originally Posted by cactusmike

That is a big question, isn't it? I have to believe that the MOU addresses that issue for the reasons you cite. There may be a workaround over the C of C issue but it would be faster and cheaper to buy off on it. Getting the merger done sooner rather than later benefits everyone other than Horton.

Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot

Agreed, but what would you define an AWA pilot floating into CLT or PHL as the number 1 A330/B767 captain as?

Originally Posted by Tomahawk58

So this is all about Mr Horton is it!?

Originally Posted by cactusmike

Where do you come up with that?

Originally Posted by cactusmike

There was a copy of some notes taken during the December meetings. I do not have that copy. I don't know if it is true, if it made it into the final MOU, that's why I just cited that as an example of how the CBAs could be modified.

Be nice if it was true, right?

Originally Posted by NTR32

Popular opinion is that he's in the drivers seat looking for a big pay day.