American interviews and class dates
04-23-2014, 07:28 PM
#1541
Unfaithfully yours, Hank
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Originally Posted by aa73
You'll prob get off reserve slightly faster on the 737, but the 75/76 does go very junior as well. Good luck! Both fleets offer some really fun flying and destinations. It's a type of flying I'm glad I did, now I'm enjoying not commuting on my domestic 737 gig.
Do you by chance know the DOH of the junior line holders in MIA on the 767 and 737? I hear that guys are getting line pretty quick on the airbus and S80...
04-23-2014, 09:17 PM
#1542
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I wouldn't sweat trying to figure out what's the 'perfect' decision. The snapshot of today will/might change before you can hold a line on whatever is the 'perfect' choice right now.
You'll be able to bid the 'perfect' choice and it will probably happen before you can hold a line on X equipment in Y base.
You'll be able to bid the 'perfect' choice and it will probably happen before you can hold a line on X equipment in Y base.
04-24-2014, 03:27 AM
#1543
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Hard to tell what the DOH is of the junior line holders, as they're right around seniority #8900 which is either a TWA recall or an Eagle flow through, both of which are well ahead of the new hires. However - 8900 is around 1000 #s from new hire seniority, so figure about a year or so to your first line, plus or minus who knows what. ��
Double edit: LGA/320/FO line holder is still quite junior, around 9800 which is a couple months after new hire.
Double edit: LGA/320/FO line holder is still quite junior, around 9800 which is a couple months after new hire.
Last edited by aa73; 04-24-2014 at 03:56 AM.
04-24-2014, 05:48 AM
#1545
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Originally Posted by aapilotguy
I believe that a couple of the senior guys in the Jan 7 class were awarded lines for May on the 320 in LGA.
04-24-2014, 06:03 AM
#1547
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Originally Posted by aa73
There are about 20 reserves on the 320 in LGA. Still a very small bid status. For some reason the APA site does not show the reserve lines/new hires but the AA pilot site does.
04-24-2014, 06:15 AM
#1548
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I think it's b/c it's such a new, and small, bid status...lines tend to go very junior when that is the case as everyone waits to see how it all shakes out. LGA/737 was the same way when it was first introduced. Still a great deal for new hires! When I was a new hire back in '00, I held a line my very second month as a Mia/727/FE. During times of movement, holding a line comes pretty quick in certain bid statuses.
04-24-2014, 06:20 AM
#1549
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Originally Posted by aa73
I think it's b/c it's such a new, and small, bid status...lines tend to go very junior when that is the case as everyone waits to see how it all shakes out. LGA/737 was the same way when it was first introduced. Still a great deal for new hires! When I was a new hire back in '00, I held a line my very second month as a Mia/727/FE. During times of movement, holding a line comes pretty quick in certain bid statuses.
. That makes sense for those looking to see how the flying looks before they grab a line. Thanks for the good info! Senior on reserve has its perks too, right?
04-24-2014, 06:23 AM
#1550
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New equipment often goes junior at the bottom vs what it's expected to settle out at. Uncertainty of quality of flying, who's senior that might come over ahead of you, etc.
When we got the A300's years ago guys couldn't hold a line as FE's but held lines as A300 FO's. Since they were already on reserve they bid the new a/c rolling the dice and it worked out for them. But a more senior guy wouldn't bid it because it's not worth the risk if it doesn't break his way.
P.S. Just saw aa73's reply. We're saying the same thing.
787 bidding starts shortly. Uncertainty with a new fleet, and who's bidding it which is unknown until the awards, generates uncertainty and can lead to non typical seniority just like what happened to the AB (300 and 320) in JFK.
When we got the A300's years ago guys couldn't hold a line as FE's but held lines as A300 FO's. Since they were already on reserve they bid the new a/c rolling the dice and it worked out for them. But a more senior guy wouldn't bid it because it's not worth the risk if it doesn't break his way.
P.S. Just saw aa73's reply. We're saying the same thing.
787 bidding starts shortly. Uncertainty with a new fleet, and who's bidding it which is unknown until the awards, generates uncertainty and can lead to non typical seniority just like what happened to the AB (300 and 320) in JFK.
Last edited by Sliceback; 04-24-2014 at 06:25 AM. Reason: Added ps
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