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Old 03-05-2015, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Frisco727 View Post
The AACARS format is not that complicated it's just a matter of learning the new system.
It's not rocket science. But it is quite a bit less efficient of a system than the LUS system.

In the past, I would just type in the text into the scratch pad, enter it into the free text line and hit send. Now I have to press "edit", enter in the text, then press "enter" then press "send". At least 3-4 extra button pushes and a couple extra pages that wasn't necessary before.

Ditto with the "changeover report". It wants my landing weight and I have to hit "send" now, when it the past, for most of our aircraft it was automated and we got our gate info around 8,000'.

I could go on...you don't even want to know how much more complicated the final W/B and TPS is now with the new procedures compared to our old procedures, but I'll just stop there.

I can figure out the AA system just fine, I just think it's unnecessarily more complicated and not anywhere near as organized as the LUS system.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:10 AM
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I'm sure stuff will change to whoever had the best procedures after SOC. Who cares where they came from as long as they are the best procedures. This RC9 stuff is a step backwards in terms of acars for sure. It has way less features and capabilities.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:18 AM
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Give us the LUS JS system and I'll gladly put up with spurious ACARS inputs, heck I'll even wear the stupid vest during pre flight.
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Old 03-05-2015, 11:40 AM
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Sorry to use this topic for my request, but seemed close to correct.

Can I get a load check for AA127 IAD-DFW tomorrow morning, 3/6? IT looked open but with all the snow and cancellations today, it seems to have filled quickly.

Thanks.
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Old 03-05-2015, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot View Post
It's not rocket science. But it is quite a bit less efficient of a system than the LUS system.

In the past, I would just type in the text into the scratch pad, enter it into the free text line and hit send. Now I have to press "edit", enter in the text, then press "enter" then press "send". At least 3-4 extra button pushes and a couple extra pages that wasn't necessary before.

Ditto with the "changeover report". It wants my landing weight and I have to hit "send" now, when it the past, for most of our aircraft it was automated and we got our gate info around 8,000'.

I could go on...you don't even want to know how much more complicated the final W/B and TPS is now with the new procedures compared to our old procedures, but I'll just stop there.

I can figure out the AA system just fine, I just think it's unnecessarily more complicated and not anywhere near as organized as the LUS system.

The ACARS requires fAAr more button pushes to do the same thing.... In fact there are so many new ACARS button pushes, our new pay rates are actually lower than they were before the merger (if you figure the pay rate as a function of ACARS button pushes per hour).
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:48 AM
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It worked just fine in the 60s so we'll just stick with that!

Let's also have thousands and thousands of checklists, safety vests, tuff cuffs (coming soon according to training) issued to pilots VS 1 or 2 per airplane and spares at hubs.

Oh and let's not forget getting up at 6 am on your day off to check in for commute flight and possibly get bumped by someone's kid who is on a connecting flight.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bigscrillywilli View Post
It worked just fine in the 60s so we'll just stick with that!

Let's also have thousands and thousands of checklists, safety vests, tuff cuffs (coming soon according to training) issued to pilots VS 1 or 2 per airplane and spares at hubs.

Oh and let's not forget getting up at 6 am on your day off to check in for commute flight and possibly get bumped by someone's kid who is on a connecting flight.
Agree with most of your gripes. However, with IVR your ride to work is guaranteed.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinawa View Post
Agree with most of your gripes. However, with IVR your ride to work is guaranteed.
Yeah I'm definitely on board with that. Works so well, but probably not with the NAAtive mindset.
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bigscrillywilli View Post
Yeah I'm definitely on board with that. Works so well, but probably not with the NAAtive mindset.
Very glad we will be going to our system. The LAA guys will enjoy the ease of the system if they can ever get over having to deal with a change.
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Old 03-12-2015, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Very glad we will be going to our system. The LAA guys will enjoy the ease of the system if they can ever get over having to deal with a change.

Great news!

Best jumpseat system anywhere!
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