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Old 08-17-2014, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip View Post
SWA pilots fly faster than anyone in the industry. They're motivated to do so by the way they're paid. Gonna need a better example!
Where'd you get this info. 261 kt descents aren't fast in my book.
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PropPiedmont View Post
Where'd you get this info. 261 kt descents aren't fast in my book.
Most in the industry know this. They get paid by the trip. Just talked to a guy on the jumpseat yesterday about how SWA guys got caught accelerating between points on a STAR.
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Old 08-17-2014, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip View Post
Most in the industry know this. They get paid by the trip. Just talked to a guy on the jumpseat yesterday about how SWA guys got caught accelerating between points on a STAR.
We get paid for overflying scheduled block times. Only real incentive to fly fast would be to lower block/FDP time inorder to pick up additional flying on days off.
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:19 AM
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Any updates on the JCBA?
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:49 AM
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Any updates on the JCBA?
The APA said they will put out an update today re-capping the week long special meeting they just had dealing with the JCBA. Haven't seen anything yet, and it probably won't have much new information anyway, as almost the entire meeting was in closed session...

From their update yesterday: "The APA board of directors adjourned its special meeting mid-afternoon today. We will recap highlights of this week's meeting in tomorrow's APA News Digest, including resolutions that the board voted to approve."
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:52 AM
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Rumor is Doug offered DAL wages now instead of 2016 but with a big catch, significant Scope concessions on our part.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:11 AM
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Nope. If that's his offer, stick with the current MOU, AND in that case Doug will wind up paying what DAL is making with their new contract in 2016. Current DAL pay rates now and a pay parity review in 2019 is a good deal. If he's not willing to play ball with the labor groups, I think a lot of pilots will avoid AA and go work for DAL and UAL. I already know some in the military that have no intention of applying to AA unless things get better.
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Delta contract/delta scope
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
Rumor is Doug offered DAL wages now instead of 2016 but with a big catch, significant Scope concessions on our part.
Damn, the MOU already increased the allowable number of 76 seat jets by a third. That was too much as it is.
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
Rumor is Doug offered DAL wages now instead of 2016 but with a big catch, significant Scope concessions on our part.
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