justjack

So you won't apologize. You are going to stand by that statement. (“I find it beyond childish that folks in the top couple % of income earners in the US lack the work ethic of those making $10/hr working at grocery stores however.”) Bash a pilot group and say Doug "owns' the company? BTW yes, yes I got the PBGC- but the company did not give me my 20 years to invest in the stock market back. They did not wave a magic wand and make me 30 again. But this is not the point. The point is that you come to a thread that is honestly trying to hash out a contract proposal and trash talk pilots"work ethic" because they disagree with your opinion about the offer.

eaglefly

Wow, it looks like 100,000 employees aren't the only ones who could get stiffed. The city of Ft. Worth supported the merger based in part on Parker's promises it would stay as the headquarters. Now, after one year, Parker is mulling over a move elsewhere. Not surprising considering the last week or so.

I wonder how that anti-union hack Schnurman will spin this one ?

Going to be tough to blame the unions for this, but I'll bet he'll find an angle. Ft. Worth must feel as betrayed as we do. Probably just strong-arming them for tax benefits or cost reductions. I wonder if Glass is handling that too ? Oh well, Just another sad footnote of the future of AA is my guess.

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Doug effectively owns the company. What he wants he gets. Semantics.

Like I said the past has sucked. Hopefully history won't repeat itself. If there is one positive labor can say about Doug, is that he knows how to make money. Ultimately, that is the most important and primary function of a business.

Take my comment about work ethic however you want. It wasn't directed at an entire group, and you know that. Just the ones that enjoy screwing our customers over due to the perceived low contract offer.

eaglefly

Agreed. I think he'll ultimately get the airline he wants....it's HIS airline. It's just I think he would have been much better off not associating AA with Delta in any way or making silly claims about "culture change". It would have saved everyone a lot of grief. Delta and AA are destined to be apples and oranges in the future in virtually all respects. Now if UAL becomes like Delta, then oh, boy we have a real problem....well, actually Doug has a real problem. Why ?

Because by Parker's own admission, 100,000 people whose efforts don't matter to profits can't solve that problem, Doug must solve it...............on his own. Let's all hope it turns out better for him then it did for Carty, Arpey or Horton who all had the same philosophy.

justjack

Doug Parker does not "effectively" or in any other way own the company. He did not purchase it or work all his life to build the business or even inherit it. He is a CEO. Nothing more. What difference does it make to me if he can make money when I get the same amount no matter what. The days of needing good management to keep a company out of bankruptcy are in the past. This does not speak to my work ethic, but rather my humanity. "Close to home." Apparently you did not read my reply with evidence of my "work ethic." No that's not it. This is a non apology. Can you be even more insulting. So you won't apologize. You are going to stand by that statement. (“I find it beyond childish that folks in the top couple % of income earners in the US lack the work ethic of those making $10/hr working at grocery stores however.”) Which just BTW is also insulting to the $10/hr workers.

DCA A321 FO

WOW, I am agreeing with WD on some points, welcome to the New American.

justjack

I am interested as to how Parker will ever back peddle out of this statement. (100,000 people whose efforts don't matter to profits can't solve that problem) I think this was a huge mistake on his part to say this in public. I think the next thing we will see is him trying to rephrase this- but we need to remember that this is how he really feels. He said it. He meant it. We need to hold his feet to the flames for it.

kingairip

Wow. You understand business even less than I thought.

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This is the future of AA, IMO

Could major US airline create an "economy minus" cabin? - Runway GirlRunway Girl

eaglefly

Holy cow, East is agreeing with West ?

Former (kinda) USAPA reps in agreement with legacy AA reps ?

That can only mean regardless of ones origination, there's no mistaking the foul stench that's intensifying or pretending it doesn't exist. Most all noses agree with what they are smelling. AA pilots are coming to terms that they got the old US Airways management and US Airways pilots are coming to terms they are joining the old AA run by the old US Airways management. Considering the ramifications of combining those two.......

God, what a great future for this airline !!!