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Old 01-30-2015, 12:16 PM
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I'm reading the posts where one or two of you guys are planning exciting trips to the realtor's in your new Polaris, and thinking this will make for interesting times at block parties, and cocktail parties in neighborhoods with several pilots.

Year 1: AMR pilot tells double-breasted DAL and UAL neighbors to [****] it, cause payrates are 7% higher. Receives good-natured pat on back. No one utters the words "profit-sharing"

Year 2: "AND we got rid of Horton". No one mentions duty-rigs.

Year 3: "Don't forget that SOB Horton. We sure got rid of him". No one mentions Parker.

Year 4: "[expletive] Horton's gone, man. We sure got rid of him!". Embarassed silence.

Year 5: "Did I mention Horton? We got rid of that guy!" Someone mumbles "and you got nice double-breasted jackets!". Pandemonium ensues.


Enjoy the Polarii!

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Old 01-30-2015, 12:24 PM
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Edit: understand what you are saying after you had to edit it. You're saying DL guys have a better contract and an inferiority complex.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:02 PM
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Edit: understand what you are saying after you had to edit it. You're saying DL guys have a better contract and an inferiority complex.
We might have an inferiority complex, possibly, I don't know. I was just coming at this from the perspective of wishing you success. It's not altruism: it's business. I don't think there is a pilot in the industry that wasn't hoping for you to really set a marker with your contract.

So you locked yourself into an arbitration hearing, but wisely set-up an upside protection for 2016. UAL and DAL did this via the PS. Now you coughed it up, and locked yourself in for a long-term deal that cannot possibly raise the bar. While working for the world's number one airline, and a cash-generating, powerhouse of a network. With oil <$50.

Then you have guys bragging about a Polaris and a deer lease, and guys high-fiving each other over payrates. I'm trying to imagine how good that's going to feel, in years 2, 3, 4, and 5.
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We might have an inferiority complex, possibly, I don't know. I was just coming at this from the perspective of wishing you success. It's not altruism: it's business. I don't think there is a pilot in the industry that wasn't hoping for you to really set a marker with your contract.

So you locked yourself into an arbitration hearing, but wisely set-up an upside protection for 2016. UAL and DAL did this via the PS. Now you coughed it up, and locked yourself in for a long-term deal that cannot possibly raise the bar. While working for the world's number one airline, and a cash-generating, powerhouse of a network. With oil <$50.

Then you have guys bragging about a Polaris and a deer lease, and guys high-fiving each other over payrates. I'm trying to imagine how good that's going to feel, in years 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Truth be told, the average pilot at Delta and American are no different. The statistics would prove it out... the Sample of "ATP certificate possessors" is too big for there to be any difference in the average. The difference is between Parker and Anderson, where the Sample is one... therein lies the difference. There is a reason that pilots are the only major unionized group at Delta.

Parker and Glass could make monkeys out of Delta pilots just as easily as they made monkeys out of AA pilots. That's the reality of it.
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
We might have an inferiority complex, possibly, I don't know. I was just coming at this from the perspective of wishing you success. It's not altruism: it's business. I don't think there is a pilot in the industry that wasn't hoping for you to really set a marker with your contract.

So you locked yourself into an arbitration hearing, but wisely set-up an upside protection for 2016. UAL and DAL did this via the PS. Now you coughed it up, and locked yourself in for a long-term deal that cannot possibly raise the bar. While working for the world's number one airline, and a cash-generating, powerhouse of a network. With oil <$50.

Then you have guys bragging about a Polaris and a deer lease, and guys high-fiving each other over payrates. I'm trying to imagine how good that's going to feel, in years 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Didn't you guys bring on the RJ? Sink, you guys have had your parker and glass in the past. They bent you over the barrel just the same. You currently have a better boss. That's all.
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Didn't you guys bring on the B scale? Lots of blame to go around.



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Didn't you guys bring on the RJ? Sink, you guys have had your parker and glass in the past. They bent you over the barrel just the same. You simply have a better boss. That's all.
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Who would be caught dead at a cocktail party with a Delta pilot?
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Who would be caught dead at a cocktail party with a Delta pilot?
Hee hee hee!
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Who would be caught dead at a cocktail party with a Delta pilot?
Thanks relay... This is the truth.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:29 PM
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I'm a DL guy and have nothing but empathy for my AA friends. I constantly root for everyone in this industry to raise the bar so we can all do the same.

You idiots can keep taking pot shots at each other, while I'm going to wish you all the best.

Try not to paint ALL DL pilots with a wide brush. There are many of us here rooting for you guys.
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