How is the operation running?
09-19-2012, 12:46 PM
#41
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by jabone
Passenger here -
Not happy much at all over all of this.
Ticket agents, gate agents and the like are all getting beat up.
Not happy much at all over all of this.
Ticket agents, gate agents and the like are all getting beat up.
09-19-2012, 12:58 PM
#43
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Curious how this affects you as a passenger and your future travel plans with AA. Would you fly them again? Do you have frequent flier status on AA?
Yes I am an EXPLT. As an EXPLT AA has been very good to me and kept me in moving whenever normal IROPS happen. I don't live in a hub city so I have two main choices if I don't count WN. If the other carrier makes me an offer to switch and I may consider, but not sure I am at the point I would listen right now.
09-19-2012, 02:28 PM
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Blue fifi flogger
Posts: 736
Although most of us are sympathetic to the disruption of your individual plans, individual customers at this point are the casualties of an antiquated labor law system that allows management to freely gut career expectations with little recourse. I submit that a carrier that has openly declared warfare on its employees is unlikely to experience exemplary service and reliability as a result.
09-19-2012, 03:21 PM
#45
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by aewanabe
Although most of us are sympathetic to the disruption of your individual plans, individual customers at this point are the casualties of an antiquated labor law system that allows management to freely gut career expectations with little recourse. I submit that a carrier that has openly declared warfare on its employees is unlikely to experience exemplary service and reliability as a result.
09-19-2012, 09:55 PM
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by aa73
They are about to implement "overfly shall be cancelled by underfly" policy. Gee, wonder how pilots will get around that? 
My understanding is that NWA tried that and their pilots started "BOB" (Block Or Better) and management stopped it shortly thereafter.
My understanding is that NWA tried that and their pilots started "BOB" (Block Or Better) and management stopped it shortly thereafter.Yes, you are correct... during the BOB days the NWA pilot group slowed daily ops to an absolute crawl. It seemed that 99.9% of the pilots performed BOB and NWA mgt changed its tune over night. The only way for this type of thing to work is to have the entire AA pilot group working together.
Last edited by johnso29; 09-20-2012 at 05:39 AM. Reason: Fixed quote
09-20-2012, 03:12 AM
#47
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Posts: 109
Originally Posted by aa73
They are about to implement "overfly shall be cancelled by underfly" policy. Gee, wonder how pilots will get around that? My understanding is that NWA tried that and their pilots started "BOB" (Block Or Better) and management stopped it shortly thereafter.
My understanding is that NWA tried that and their pilots started "BOB" (Block Or Better) and management stopped it shortly thereafter.Underfly? What the hell is Underfly? There shall be no such thing!
Last edited by johnso29; 09-20-2012 at 05:39 AM. Reason: Fixed quote
09-20-2012, 06:26 AM
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: Bigg Bird!!
Posts: 599
Time for ALL pilots to draw a line in the sand. Not just AA pilots but ALL other airlines as well. It is time to educate the general public that our professions downward spiral has/will trickle down to ALL other industries as well. All other organized labor groups, regardless of industry, are feeling the rape and demise of working agreements that have taken decades to achieve.
This struggle is not just about the AA pilots, its about ALL US LABOR!!
As pilots WE have failed miserably in educating the masses how our struggle is in many ways the same struggle as teachers, firemen, police, auto industry workers, ALL pensioned employees, etc, etc.
The general public will not sympathise with OUR cause unless we educate them on how parallel ours is to "their" cause.
"Today its ME, tomorrow will be YOU"
This struggle is not just about the AA pilots, its about ALL US LABOR!!
As pilots WE have failed miserably in educating the masses how our struggle is in many ways the same struggle as teachers, firemen, police, auto industry workers, ALL pensioned employees, etc, etc.
The general public will not sympathise with OUR cause unless we educate them on how parallel ours is to "their" cause.
"Today its ME, tomorrow will be YOU"
Last edited by LittleBoyBlew; 09-20-2012 at 06:39 AM.
09-20-2012, 07:02 AM
#50
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew
Time for ALL pilots to draw a line in the sand. Not just AA pilots but ALL other airlines as well. It is time to educate the general public that our professions downward spiral has/will trickle down to ALL other industries as well. All other organized labor groups, regardless of industry, are feeling the rape and demise of working agreements that have taken decades to achieve.
This struggle is not just about the AA pilots, its about ALL US LABOR!!
As pilots WE have failed miserably in educating the masses how our struggle is in many ways the same struggle as teachers, firemen, police, auto industry workers, ALL pensioned employees, etc, etc.
The general public will not sympathise with OUR cause unless we educate them on how parallel ours is to "their" cause.
"Today its ME, tomorrow will be YOU"
This struggle is not just about the AA pilots, its about ALL US LABOR!!
As pilots WE have failed miserably in educating the masses how our struggle is in many ways the same struggle as teachers, firemen, police, auto industry workers, ALL pensioned employees, etc, etc.
The general public will not sympathise with OUR cause unless we educate them on how parallel ours is to "their" cause.
"Today its ME, tomorrow will be YOU"
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