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Fly IFR
05-03-2010, 08:26 AM
Personally, I don't think it looks too hot, but maybe I'm just not used to it. Anyone else, thoughts, comments...
http://www.unitedcontinentalmerger.com/sites/default/files/snapshots/slides/new_livery.jpg
SoCalGuy
05-03-2010, 08:49 AM
Have to agree with you, looks 'strange'.
Said it earlier in another thread......With this new gitty-up, all they have to do is put a coat of "White" base paint over the existing Continental lettering, and add United....there you have it.
Doing this to only "half" the fleet maybe 'cheaper' then taking the alternative and coming up with a new/classy scheme and redoing the ENTIRE FLEET. True 'cost cutting' outta the gate??:confused:
Just a guess.....not impressed.
rickair7777
05-03-2010, 08:50 AM
I like it.
RockBottom
05-03-2010, 09:03 AM
Looks good, but the font used on "United" is terrible... The serifs are too curly.
liveupthere
05-03-2010, 09:03 AM
Is this real? Just wondering, cuz it looks kinda plain. I figure they'd put more thought into the lettering
forgot to bid
05-03-2010, 09:07 AM
There is something ugly about the lettering for United.
Maybe I'm just used to seeing the words Continental there which looks good in that font and length.
What year did the CAL paint scheme come out? Early 90s?
I wouldn't call the whole thing ugly. After all, all they did was change the name on the side. Still there's something very odd about it. Maybe its just the fact that it's "United" on the side instead of "Continental." That's been Continental's paint scheme for nearly 20 years now and its weird seeing it now with United on the side. And I agree they should change the font, it doesn't look right as it is.
I think they should have just kept the Continental name. If you read the comments on the articles that are out about this, there are quite a few people saying as much, and saying that they didn't like United but liked Continental (or at least found CAL tolerable). The United name has been tarnished pretty good over the last 10 years.
AirWillie
05-03-2010, 09:10 AM
I like it too.
gettinbumped
05-03-2010, 09:16 AM
The font is the same font they used for Continental. Personally, paint the thing pink for all I care. Show me the money.
Monkeyfly
05-03-2010, 09:20 AM
Like the tail logo. Not the font. Prefer the blue underside of United.
I guess they could save money just changing the UAL tails and the CAL lettering.
Merging corporate IDs is nicer than erasing all signs of it, like, um, I dont know...DELTA?!;)
Superpilot92
05-03-2010, 09:21 AM
I liked it when it was CAL but this looks cheap for the merged carrier. Find a new paint job to show the new carrier imho.
fit29
05-03-2010, 09:22 AM
I think its a big mistake taking the United name, in Latin America which is probably COs most profitable route network, United is just another word in the English language, nobody even has a clue that that airline exist. They are gonna have to spend some serious marketing $$$$ in LatAm before they change the name.
Fly IFR
05-03-2010, 09:23 AM
Is this real? Just wondering, cuz it looks kinda plain. I figure they'd put more thought into the lettering
As of right now that is the tentative scheme, but obviously it can and probably will change by the time they actually bring them to the paint shop... Maybe they could have just kept the "United" font they presently have on their planes.
Monkeyfly
05-03-2010, 09:24 AM
I liked it when it was CAL but this looks cheap for the merged carrier. Find a new paint job to show the new carrier imho.
Maybe eventually...
Management estimates $1.3Bn on merger costs.
Let's spend more on pilot pay and less on paint...what do you say?
SoCalGuy
05-03-2010, 09:32 AM
Let's spend more on pilot pay and less on paint...what do you say?
I second ALL of that motion.
Fishfreighter
05-03-2010, 09:47 AM
I like it. The gray/blue United "British Airways" paint is horrible and dangerous. You can't see those airplanes on a hazy day. The "new" United white over blue is better, but the Continental livery is a classic.
Captain Bligh
05-03-2010, 09:49 AM
Even better let's not waste any money on paint jobs and see this venture make money as a business, as an airline. Pilot pay will take care of itself if we can make a profit. This paint job has to cost less and be easier to maintain than the darker multi shaded "rhapsody in blue" livery.
strfyr51
05-03-2010, 09:55 AM
Like the tail logo. Not the font. Prefer the blue underside of United.
I guess they could save money just changing the UAL tails and the CAL lettering.
Merging corporate IDs is nicer than erasing all signs of it, like, um, I dont know...DELTA?!;)
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I think the CAL paint scheme will be easier to maintain. All that Blue tends to fade over time and the composite shops will be better equpped to maintain White cowls and radomes. I HOPE that Font on the United goes away, and changes to the arial font UNITED.
TonyWilliams
05-03-2010, 09:59 AM
I like it, too, but prefer a different way to present "United". On the aircraft operating in Latin America, I'd just make it "United Continental" for about 10 years.
Superpilot92
05-03-2010, 10:00 AM
Maybe eventually...
Management estimates $1.3Bn on merger costs.
Let's spend more on pilot pay and less on paint...what do you say?
Oh i agree 100% i was just discussing the paint job.
abelenky
05-03-2010, 10:09 AM
I live near Boeing's 737 factory in Renton, WA.
For several weeks now, there have been about 6 737's in the work area, all with Continental tails, but no other distinguishing marks on the fuselage.
Perhaps related to this new paint scheme?
georgetg
05-03-2010, 10:25 AM
I live near Boeing's 737 factory in Renton, WA.
For several weeks now, there have been about 6 737's in the work area, all with Continental tails, but no other distinguishing marks on the fuselage.
Perhaps related to this new paint scheme?
No that's because the seat maker Koito rubberstamped all approvals and faked crash and burn testing on their seats. CAL has Koito seats for their 73N so no signoff on the AC.
It's just strange how the whole Koito controversy has been swept under the rug for the installed in-use seats....
Must have too big of an impact on the bottom line to ground those planes.
BTW this is not just CAL the Koito seat scandal hits almost a third of all airlines... (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-08/koito-to-fix-150-000-plane-seats-on-falsified-data-update1-.html)
Cheers
George
jet320
05-03-2010, 10:30 AM
It seems is the best of both worlds!
Fritzthepilot
05-03-2010, 11:00 AM
If the Delta pilots can be seen in public flying this, then I have no problem flying what United throws on the ramp.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/3743974591_f9eb30564e.jpg
Just give "US" the contract we deserve and reign in the scope.
tsquare
05-03-2010, 11:10 AM
If the Delta pilots can be seen in public flying this, then I have no problem flying what United throws on the ramp.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/3743974591_f9eb30564e.jpg
Just give "US" the contract we deserve and reign in the scope.
Hey hey hey... don't be badmouthin' Bubbles, Blossom and Buttercup... They were quite the hit. :cool:
SUPERfluf
05-03-2010, 11:40 AM
I think its a big mistake taking the United name, in Latin America which is probably COs most profitable route network, United is just another word in the English language, nobody even has a clue that that airline exist. They are gonna have to spend some serious marketing $$$$ in LatAm before they change the name.
I doubt the paint cost savings is the whole reason for keeping the CAL logo and livery. They probably paid some consultants meeeelions of dollars to tell them that CAL customers and employees will feel a little more reassured about the merger with a set up like this.
Passengers who don't know CAL will recognize the United name. Those who don't know United will recognize the Continental logo and livery.
Overall, this is most likely a temporary change. I would expect in a few years after the certificates are combined and the operation is smoothed out we will see a new livery and perhaps even a new logo. Maybe even sooner than that.
X Rated
05-03-2010, 11:46 AM
Just so long as they stay legal and put "operated by GoJet Airlines" near the front door....
...I'm kidding...:D
X
chuckyt1
05-03-2010, 01:32 PM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z159/chuckyt1/UALCO1.jpg
SoCalGuy
05-03-2010, 01:53 PM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z159/chuckyt1/UALCO1.jpg
Hands down....+1 on this mock up. Now that is impressive......has my vote. :D
That would even make Bligh proud!
BTW....."MAY" want to correct the "CONTINENAL" Spelling in the reflection before giving it to upper mgt ;-)
80ktsClamp
05-03-2010, 01:55 PM
"United" at least needs to be in all caps...
NTT5418
05-03-2010, 02:16 PM
Hands down....+1 on this mock up. Now that is impressive......has my vote. :D
That would even make Bligh proud!
Agreed! That is quite an impressive rendering! :)
Fly IFR
05-03-2010, 03:40 PM
Agreed! That is quite an impressive rendering! :)
I would really like to see them use a combination of the 2 logos as that rendering suggests.
NTT5418
05-03-2010, 04:01 PM
I would really like to see them use a combination of the 2 logos as that rendering suggests.
I agree. I think when people see this "new" paint scheme, they will automatically think it's Continental, when, in fact it's United.
Although, for all we know this could be a temporary fix until a new scheme is released.
It will also be interesting to see this scheme on United's airbus'. (Unless they're too cheap to repaint those) :p
skyslug
05-03-2010, 05:10 PM
the "UNITED" font should be much larger and in the current United font. But no one asked me before the merger....
LifeNtheFstLne
05-03-2010, 07:14 PM
Could be worse.... like Aer Lingus....
Fritzthepilot
05-04-2010, 04:55 AM
Could be worse.... like Aer Lingus....
With all the recent news, Aer Lingus seems like a distant nightmare. My sincere apologies for all the dirty laundry (scope) we are bringing to the marriage. Hopefully, working together, we can wipe this slate clean.
LifeNtheFstLne
05-04-2010, 06:24 AM
Amen brother. We have our share of 'personnel' issues - but I hear that UAL Flt ops treats you guys leaps and bounds better than our people do. Let's hope this best of breed concept they're selling works. If we get sold out over scope - I'm axed.
This combo might finally get the scabtains to run for the hills and get some movement going again. Rumor around here is a bid right around the corner to start recalling CAL and UAL folks...
Bot999
05-04-2010, 01:04 PM
LNFL,
Love your avatar! Where'd that come from? Too funny.
Bot
LifeNtheFstLne
05-04-2010, 01:47 PM
LNFL,
Love your avatar! Where'd that come from? Too funny.
Bot
It's a self portrait. Usually I have a smoke and a flask in my other hand. I'm easy to spot.
CVGCRJ
05-11-2011, 09:54 PM
LOL! Ya all be cool! In a year or two we all will be OnE airline.... sigh....