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Be aware of this airline
The owner is a crook, and his son has been arrested several times, by the way, little Ramiz Jr, has a long rap sheet, from cocaine posession to multiple DWIs.
Doral PD had a nice mugshot of him.
Little Jr also runs the company, that's nice.
I heard that pilots are abused as soon as they sign up a contract.
Stay the f..... away from this place

Yep, they have very bad reputation here in Miami
I heard that police cruisers stop by with moving truck ready to repo some property.

Some body told me that the Chief Pilot smokes on the cockpit and the FO's do not complain afraid of being fired

What good would complaining do? Put-up or shut-up.

I'm sure there are better bottom feeders to work for than Falcon. There 15 minutes of fame came when Falcon Air Express (#1) hosted a wet tee shirt contest in the spring of 1999. Ahh the good old days.

Long live the B727

Saw an MD-80 last night in Bakersfield on an INS flight. Headed to SAN using a Patriot call-sign. Curious as to how they can pull off getting a government contract.

they are contracted through another company that gets those contracts. It is easy how they get the contract: They are cheap.

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet:
Spirit SCABS on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/23771065)

An A&P friend of mine used to work for Falcon a couple of months ago and he showed me a stack of e- mails from the Ramiz family coursing mechanics in most of the e- mails
Abuse?

I heard that Zack Adams is the DO at Falcon
He's being fired from several companies and have violations with the FAA
Ask around at" 36 th street" in Miami, this guy holds a long and bad rep
"FAA loves this guy" ha ha ha ......

I heard that Zack Adams is the DO at Falcon
He's being fired from several companies and have violations with the FAA
Ask around at" 36 th street" in Miami, this guy holds a long and bad rep
"FAA loves this guy" ha ha ha ......

I think that his colleagues and the FAA as well as ZA know more about ZA'a history than you do. Not nice and unprofessional to name names and spread trash on the threads jetpilot235.

How about that mods... you agree?

Some body told me that the Chief Pilot smokes on the cockpit and the FO's do not complain afraid of being fired


I had to re-read this one a couple of times.

Hi Guys, Just wanted to give you some accurate information on Falcon Air Express. The first officer pay is $51/hr and the captain pay is $71/hr. The guarantee is 60 hours. This is a fixed pay scale so it doesn't matter how many years you work here, the pay remains the same. You have a guaranteed 8 days off per month plus whatever days you can get using the 1 in 7 rule. There are two bases....Miami and Mesa Arizona. The Mesa flying is hauling illegal aliens back to Central America. The Miami flying is passenger charter with some scheduled service coming up in early next year. Currently have 6 MD83s with two more coming in Feb 2012. There are some medical benefits if you live in Miami, but there are currently no medical benefits in Phoenix. The training is good, and the instructors are great. The employee group is hard working and easy to deal with. There is no training pay. The company pays for your hotel, but you must pay the company back through payroll deduction. There is no direct deposit, only checks

Hi Guys, Just wanted to give you some accurate information on Falcon Air Express. The first officer pay is $51/hr and the captain pay is $71/hr. The guarantee is 60 hours. This is a fixed pay scale so it doesn't matter how many years you work here, the pay remains the same. You have a guaranteed 8 days off per month plus whatever days you can get using the 1 in 7 rule. There are two bases....Miami and Mesa Arizona. The Mesa flying is hauling illegal aliens back to Central America. The Miami flying is passenger charter with some scheduled service coming up in early next year. Currently have 6 MD83s with two more coming in Feb 2012. There are some medical benefits if you live in Miami, but there are currently no medical benefits in Phoenix. The training is good, and the instructors are great. The employee group is hard working and easy to deal with. There is no training pay. The company pays for your hotel, but you must pay the company back through payroll deduction. There is no direct deposit, only checks

Holy Hell! :eek: 8 days off..... no training pay..... AND they have the audacity to bill you for the hotel. Sign me up!

how does that work? employees for same company, Miami = Medical, Phoenix = No Medical

uh....

Typical KMIA/Corrision Corner rules :rolleyes:

how does that work? employees for same company, Miami = Medical, Phoenix = No Medical

uh....

Hi Guys, Just wanted to give you some accurate information on Falcon Air Express. The first officer pay is $51/hr and the captain pay is $71/hr. The guarantee is 60 hours. This is a fixed pay scale so it doesn't matter how many years you work here, the pay remains the same. You have a guaranteed 8 days off per month plus whatever days you can get using the 1 in 7 rule. There are two bases....Miami and Mesa Arizona. The Mesa flying is hauling illegal aliens back to Central America. The Miami flying is passenger charter with some scheduled service coming up in early next year. Currently have 6 MD83s with two more coming in Feb 2012. There are some medical benefits if you live in Miami, but there are currently no medical benefits in Phoenix. The training is good, and the instructors are great. The employee group is hard working and easy to deal with. There is no training pay. The company pays for your hotel, but you must pay the company back through payroll deduction. There is no direct deposit, only checks

So to summarize....

No medical benefits.
Roughly $3000/mo pay until you upgrade and make about $4200/mo until you quit or get violated.
8 days off a month

I don't have anything nice to say so I'm not going to say anything else.

So to summarize....

No medical benefits.
Roughly $3000/mo pay until you upgrade and make about $4200/mo until you quit or get violated.
8 days off a month

I don't have anything nice to say so I'm not going to say anything else.

don't forget the "fixed pay scale" regarding no matter how many years you work there, the pay stays the same.

this is probably to ensure "fairness"

:rolleyes:

The crews are easy to get along with though. It's been proven that if an airline goes on strike, this airline will volunteer its pilots to scab.

Sounds like a dream job:D.

Hi Guys, Just wanted to give you some accurate information on Falcon Air Express. The first officer pay is $51/hr and the captain pay is $71/hr. The guarantee is 60 hours. This is a fixed pay scale so it doesn't matter how many years you work here, the pay remains the same. You have a guaranteed 8 days off per month plus whatever days you can get using the 1 in 7 rule. There are two bases....Miami and Mesa Arizona. The Mesa flying is hauling illegal aliens back to Central America. The Miami flying is passenger charter with some scheduled service coming up in early next year. Currently have 6 MD83s with two more coming in Feb 2012. There are some medical benefits if you live in Miami, but there are currently no medical benefits in Phoenix. The training is good, and the instructors are great. The employee group is hard working and easy to deal with. There is no training pay. The company pays for your hotel, but you must pay the company back through payroll deduction. There is no direct deposit, only checks
Sudenly I'm not bummed that they told me I didn't have enough hours to apply.

Hi Guys, Just wanted to give you some accurate information on Falcon Air Express. The first officer pay is $51/hr and the captain pay is $71/hr. The guarantee is 60 hours. This is a fixed pay scale so it doesn't matter how many years you work here, the pay remains the same. You have a guaranteed 8 days off per month plus whatever days you can get using the 1 in 7 rule. There are two bases....Miami and Mesa Arizona. The Mesa flying is hauling illegal aliens back to Central America. The Miami flying is passenger charter with some scheduled service coming up in early next year. Currently have 6 MD83s with two more coming in Feb 2012. There are some medical benefits if you live in Miami, but there are currently no medical benefits in Phoenix. The training is good, and the instructors are great. The employee group is hard working and easy to deal with. There is no training pay. The company pays for your hotel, but you must pay the company back through payroll deduction. There is no direct deposit, only checks


The company is great that's why so many pilots quit right in the middle of training, or right after they pick up their type rating.
I heard that some of the fired pilots from Spirit still there

Sudenly I'm not bummed that they told me I didn't have enough hours to apply.

If you know somebody there, you get hired, no matter your experience

Dynamic Airways is another operation to stay far away from. Lots of pressure there from the top to operate ouside the FARs. Cast off Arrow management runs operations. All the initial cadre has quit or been fired.

Dynamic Airways is another operation to stay far away from. Lots of pressure there from the top to operate ouside the FARs. Cast off Arrow management runs operations. All the initial cadre has quit or been fired.

They posted on the orange website looking for CA's and FO's... I guess that explains that.

I think that his colleagues and the FAA as well as ZA know more about ZA'a history than you do. Not nice and unprofessional to name names and spread trash on the threads jetpilot235.

How about that mods... you agree? I agree anyone can assasinate someones character from behind closed doors, not very professional, and worse even less class. Incidentally, I do not even know the person in question.

I agree anyone can assasinate someones character from behind closed doors, not very professional, and worse even less class. Incidentally, I do not even know the person in question.

Unfortunately, when someone gets to be that bad with co-workers, and when all pilots agree ZA is a major A..H..., this things happen.
Thanks to this website, more people know, and will stay away from that Sh.. H...:cool:

Unfortunately, when someone gets to be that bad with co-workers, and when all pilots agree ZA is a major A..H..., this things happen.
Thanks to this website, more people know, and will stay away from that Sh.. H...:cool:

Sounds pretty bad

Nevermind. Holding my tongue.

Now that AA has filled, I wonder if Falcon friends will get more airplanes quicker.

A furloughed f/a friend of mine wants to send a resume to Falcon for their Mesa base. I have encouraged her to stay away, but she is adamant. Does anyone have an address where she can send it to?

A furloughed f/a friend of mine wants to send a resume to Falcon for their Mesa base. I have encouraged her to stay away, but she is adamant. Does anyone have an address where she can send it to?

Read the copy of a letter I received from their Director of Flight Standards outlining their generous:rolleyes: terms and conditions. Now bare in mind... that for pilots. One can only imagine what F/As are being offered.


Falcon Air Express is putting together an initial new hire class with the planned base at Mesa, AZ.

There has to be better opportunities with other carriers or corporate operators.

Good luck!

A review of your resume would indicate that you possess the qualification for direct hire into Falcon Air Express as a Pilot-in-Command. If you elect to enter training at Falcon Air, we will begin your initial training as a Pilot-in-Command. However, your status as Pilot-in-Command or First Officer at the end of training will depend upon Falcon Air’s evaluation of your qualification and performance during training.

The Mesa, AZ Base’s primary function is to service Immigration and Customs Enforcement Repatriation Programs. Other charters are flown as well, but the ICE flights are the current primary flying in Mesa. All of which is always subject to change without notice. The fact of the matter is that changes to the changes will probably occur without notice!

The time off scheduled may not support commuting pilots. If the position is accepted, Falcon expects that the persons who accept the position will live in the base within 60 days of completing training.

This is a position that is subject to the alcohol and drug testing requirements of FAR 120.

Successful candidates will be responsible for their own transportation to the Falcon Air Express (FAE) Training Center in Doral, FL. FAE will provide air transportation upon your successful completion of training to OE assignment, and upon completion of OE to the major air carrier scheduled airport nearest your home of record.

Falcon Air will advance the accommodations charges at the Extended Stay Inn for the training period. The cost of those accommodations will be repaid to FAE over a ten month period. The hotel charges at the Extended Stay Inn are approximately $62.14, including tax, per day. Should you desire to arrange your own accommodations, at your own expense, that is your choice. Falcon air does not pay salary or per diem during the training period.

The training is scheduled for 46 days. We need you on the line as soon as possible, so it is in Falcon Air’s best interest to move the training along. There is no guarantee that the training will be conducted on that schedule, but that is the plan. Most training weeks will be six days.

Pay will begin when you begin your operating experience (OE) with the Company. Captain pay is 71.25, with a 60 hour guarantee. The F/O pay to start is 51.30 per hour with a 60 hr guarantee.

Per diem is payable at $36.00 per day and is paid for overnight trips where a hotel stay is involved. During day (or night) trips where no overnight hotel stays are utilized do not receive per diem.

Falcon Air is also looking to fill the position of Manager of Training. This position is intended as a non-flying position responsible for training within the Company.



Falcon Air is also trying to fill a crew instructor position. This person would be responsible for conducting all ground training subjects to crews. The preferred candidate would be one who would also be qualified to instruct in the simulator. When not actively engaged in training, he would be responsible for improving training aids and materials and acting as a Subject Matter Expert on the MD-80. If you are qualified and interested in such a position, please respond to XXX XXX and you will be sent a more complete description of the position.



XXX XXXX
Manager of Flight Standards
Falcon Air Express
Doral, Florida

Read the copy of a letter I received from their Director of Flight Standards outlining their generous:rolleyes: terms and conditions. Now bare in mind... that for pilots. One can only imagine what F/As are being offered.

When a regional FO would take a pay cut to go fly MD's thats awesome... Anyone that would take this job is also awesome.

Oh and they forgot to mention that they perform scab work from time to time...

FA's prbly have to pay Falcon for the chance to work with their awesome client base out of Mesa.

Oh and that Address:
123 Im Gonna Be Broke Blvd
Mesa, AZ 69696

Dynamic Airways is another operation to stay far away from. Lots of pressure there from the top to operate ouside the FARs. Cast off Arrow management runs operations. All the initial cadre has quit or been fired.
Is Judy Tull still involved w/ Dynamic in Myrtle Beach?

When a regional FO would take a pay cut to go fly MD's thats awesome... Anyone that would take this job is also awesome.

Oh and they forgot to mention that they perform scab work from time to time...

FA's prbly have to pay Falcon for the chance to work with their awesome client base out of Mesa.

Oh and that Address:
123 Im Gonna Be Broke Blvd
Mesa, AZ 69696

And pilots wonder why terms and conditions are still on the decline in the US:confused:.

And pilots wonder why terms and conditions are still on the decline in the US:confused:.

The fact that Falcons aircraft leave the ground shows you the state of US aviation.

Is Judy Tull still involved w/ Dynamic in Myrtle Beach?

Word on the street is that direct air got bought by sky king. No one knows what the future will be for direct air or Judy

The fact that Falcons aircraft leave the ground shows you the state of US aviation.

I hope there are no chaps willing to fund FAE's training costs just to get a left seat position. Those who do need to be included in a special list of SHAME!:(

I hope there are no chaps willing to fund FAE's training costs just to get a left seat position. Those who do need to be included in a special list of SHAME!:(

+1... I agree

Word on the street is that direct air got bought by sky king. No one knows what the future will be for direct air or Judy

From Direct Air's web site:
"*Flights are Public Charters operated by Xtra Airways and Sky King."

Direct Air is a broker...
Dynamic is a different "airline" all together...

From Direct Air's web site:
"*Flights are Public Charters operated by Xtra Airways and Sky King."

Direct Air is a broker...
Dynamic is a different "airline" all together...

Correction. Direct got bought by Swift. Yes Xtra and Sky King are contracted airlines and Direct is the logistics, but now that Swift has bought Direct the rumor is that Swift will operate the business with their own planes.

Saw an advert on the "Orange" site looking for more pay to players... what a shock.

Looks like their DO is jumping ship. Saw an advert on the Orange website.

Any takers?:rolleyes:

Lot's of sniping comments, from a few who decline to use a name that can be identified. If you have a reason to make a personal attack, at least have the courage of your convictions and bring it to me with your name.
For the record, you cannot be a DO with (or in most cases any) violations. Company's may hire a DO, but the FAA must approve.
On the matter of Falcon. A demanding company, but probably one that will stay in business. The owners are on property, at least one all the time and are approachable. You may not agree with the answers, but you can ask the questions from those who make the policies. Bottom line, it is a job that works well for some, but not everyone.
The airplanes are safe, the company does not ask or expect you to put your license or safety on the line. In fact, they demand that you do not compromise safety.

Check the facts with current employees...Falcon is not perfect, but the checks are on time, the airplanes are safe, and the ownership approachable if you have a problem.

Saw an advert on the "Orange" site looking for more pay to players... what a shock.
What do you mean "pay to players"?

What is the background of pilots being hired by Falcon Air? Do they mostly hire pilots with DC9/MD80 experience, or do they hire commuter type guys?

Does anyone know if they have jumpseat agreements, or are on CASS?

What do you mean "pay to players"?

What is the background of pilots being hired by Falcon Air? Do they mostly hire pilots with DC9/MD80 experience, or do they hire commuter type guys?

Does anyone know if they have jumpseat agreements, or are on CASS?

I think indirectly it may be a pay to play operation. They lay out the cash for training and hotel accommodations. Then they withhold money from one's paycheck repay Falcon for all expenses incurred. A previous poster was beating their chest, in a manner which seems to extol the virtues of Falcon Air.

Perhaps current and recently departed Falconers can provide accurate information from the onset of training, actual training, line operation, and company support.

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Perhaps current and recently departed Falconers can provide accurate information from the onset of training, actual training, line operation, and company support.[/QUOTE]

Well if any of you guys out there are actually flying the line for Falcon Air, or just recently departed, I would like to hear what it is like flying there. I am also interested in benefits, like insurance, 401K, and jump seats.

So it appears no one on this forum actually flies for Falcon Air???? I am still trying to gather info on this carrier from someone within. My main questions are; do they require prior DC9 experience to start as captain, do they have jumpseat privileges? Also, what is the hiring/interviewing process like?

So it appears no one on this forum actually flies for Falcon Air???? I am still trying to gather info on this carrier from someone within. My main questions are; do they require prior DC9 experience to start as captain, do they have jumpseat privileges? Also, what is the hiring/interviewing process like?

If you are still seeking a DC-9 position, just come to EAC. The management/figurehead leaders are turds who believe in a hand shake and smile. It has turned out to be one of my larger Circus shows from day one, to year 6. However, if you were to make such a foolish/crotch smelling decision (flying a turd DC9 at EAC), beware of a child who goes by, "Sack of turds/J.E/ *******". This parasite has turned sweet smelling flowers into 54 pounds of American horse ****!!!! :eek::D:)

I ran into the CP at falcon about 2 yrs ago so this info might have changed. No CASS, no guarantee- paid what you fly, no per deim- meals provided, Either you live in base or the company will fly you out to the assignment but you might be there for more than a month, I was flying the 737 and he said no problem to come on as a MD-80 captain. It seemed to me that they are always looking and if you have some jet time there is a good chance of getting on as a captain. Like I said this was two yrs ago.

If you are still seeking a DC-9 position, just come to EAC. The management/figurehead leaders are turds who believe in a hand shake and smile. It has turned out to be one of my larger Circus shows from day one, to year 6. However, if you were to make such a foolish/crotch smelling decision (flying a turd DC9 at EAC), beware of a child who goes by, "Sack of turds/J.E/ *******". This parasite has turned sweet smelling flowers into 54 pounds of American horse ****!!!! :eek::D:)

I have never heard of EAC, and can't find anything about them online. What kind of operator are the, charter, freight,...? They must be pretty small. I did Google searches for EAC Airlines, Charter, Cargo. Nothing came up.

Everts Air Cargo.

I found this info on the internet, about the honesty and reputation of Falcon Air owner, more links coming up.

Reported owner of companies in Florida investigated by the FBI for alleged money laundering of funds of Hugo Chavez Frias and Fidel Castro administrations. Nov 1998 - breach of fiduciary duty declared by Supreme Court of the State of New York in alleged fraudulent appropriation of Aeropostal. Oct 2001 - on trial in Caracas. Aug 2011 - no further developments reported.

Also his son, little Jr, was cought up with cocaine and the mugshot is available at the Doral PD - FL (Jr works as a manager at Falcon, as second in command)

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2006/03/28/ap2628934.html

http://www.tsj.gov.ve/decisiones/scon/Octubre/2068-301001-0...

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court-appellate-divis...

http://www.rati.com/ALLANDING_21286.htm

http://www.usatta.org/officers.htm

http://www.eud.com/1997/08/18/pol_art_18120AA.shtml

http://www.nycourts.gov/comdiv/Law%20Report%20Files/May%201...

http://www.vedoy.net/

http://www.iata.org/events/agm/2005/speakers/aeropostal_nel...

http://www.tsj.gov.ve/tsj_regiones/decisiones/2005/julio/14...

http://www.miami.com/mld/elnuevo/news/magazine/14519174.htm...

http://www.aeropostal.com/aero2004/carta.asp

Saw an advert on the Big Orange site. Looks like Falcon is trawling for those willing to pay to players.... again.....

I didnt see anywhere in the ad about pay to play.....where are you getting this? Looks like they just started hiring again.....Anybody that actually works there or is in class? thanks in advance.

Indirectly it it is a pay to play operation. They lay out the cash for training and hotel accommodations. Then they withhold money from one's paycheck repay Falcon for all expenses incurred.

Those were the terms and conditions when Falcon made a tender offer for employment last year.

Ah. Got it. Thanks.

Indirectly it it is a pay to play operation. They lay out the cash for training and hotel accommodations. Then they withhold money from one's paycheck repay Falcon for all expenses incurred.

Those were the terms and conditions when Falcon made a tender offer for employment last year.

That is terrible, I'm not a big fan of this. Training contracts are one thing, but PFT is another. Do you have an idea of the total amount they charge you including hotel expenses?

I recently turned down a job offer because they wanted me to pay for my training and they said they would deduct it from my paychecks.

That is terrible, I'm not a big fan of this. Training contracts are one thing, but PFT is another. Do you have an idea of the total amount they charge you including hotel expenses?

No... I don't recall. But anything more than a hundreth of a cent would have been too much to endure.:mad:

Ran into a guy here in Phoenix, just got on line with falcon.....he said it took their class almost 3 months to get on line.....2 full months in MIA 3-4 weeks off in the middle, 3 months total! YGBSM!

On that note, are those two who flew the struck work still at Falcon?

Ran into a guy here in Phoenix, just got on line with falcon.....he said it took their class almost 3 months to get on line.....2 full months in MIA 3-4 weeks off in the middle, 3 months total! YGBSM!

How much does the chap have to repay Falcon for all this fine learning?

The bottom feeders are looking for a crew scheduler.... not just a crew scheduler... but a part 121 crew scheduler.

I wonder if the lucky individual will have to pay for their own training too:rolleyes:.

A friend sent me this email a couple of months ago. Does any current for former Falcon crew care to comment?
A separate attachment contained the $20,000 training bond for the first 18mo. There was nothing mentioned about prorating.
hb7



Falcon Air Express is putting together an initial new hire class to fly Falcon’s MD-80 Aircraft. The pilots in this class will be assigned to any of Falcon’s bases. Those bases are Mesa, AZ (IWA), Alexandria, LA. The most likely bases are AEX and IWA at the current time. Other base assignments are also possible as determined by the business as it evolves. Falcon also currently has a Miami, FL (MIA) base and when openings occur, bids will be open and assignments to other bases are also possible.
A review of your resume would indicate that you possess the qualification for direct hire into Falcon Air Express as a First Officer. We are trying to fill a class on a very short notice. To speed the application process along, if you can accept the conditions that are outlined in this information, please go to our website http://www.flyfalconair.com/ (http://www.flyfalconair.com/) and go to the JOIN US tab. That will take you to a page with a list of application types in the lower left hand side of the new page. Click on the “FLIGHT CREW” tab, print the application out, complete the application and either scan in or photograph all pages and send them, along with a copy of your resume, to XXX
The Company also has a policy of a six month probation period for pilots. During that probation period, the Company may discharge a person without recourse.


The primary mission of the airline at the moment is, and will be, to service Immigration and Customs Enforcement Repatriation Programs. These flights include high risk deportees, but we also carry a contingent of guards, ICE Officer(s) and nurses to assure that the repatriates are carried safely.
Other charters are flown as well, but the ICE flights are the current primary flying in Mesa and any other bases that will be created inside the U.S. for the immediate future.
All of which is always subject to change without notice. The fact of the matter is that changes to the changes will probably occur without notice! Responding to changes in a positive manner is a valued character trait in Falcon Air Pilots.
The time off scheduled may not support commuting pilots. If the position is accepted, Falcon expects that the persons who accept the position must understand and accept that they will be available in the base on all days of duty. The expectation is that almost all days off will be scheduled for Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays, when there is very little ICE flying, except for those who are on reserve to cover possible charters.

This is a position that is subject to the alcohol and drug testing requirements of FAR 120. A negative pre-employment drug test will be required before an invitation to come to class can be issued.
Successful candidates will be responsible for their own transportation to the Falcon Air Express (FAE) Training Center in Doral, FL (about four miles west of Miami International Airport). FAE will provide air transportation upon your successful completion of training to OE assignment, and upon completion of OE to the major air carrier scheduled airport nearest your home of record. FAE will provide accommodations for the first 30 calendar days from the assigned date of arrival in the base.
Falcon Air will pay fifty dollars ($50.00) per day during training to pay for a pilot’s meals and expenses for the period of time from the first day of ground school until all simulator training is complete. The reimbursement for expenses will be paid in the following manner:
1. Upon successful completion of the first 15 days of training, the initial increment of $750.00 will be paid.
2. Upon successful completion of the second 15 days of training the second increment of $750.00 will be paid.
3. Upon successful completion of all simulator training the third increment will be paid up from the 30th day of training until the last day of simulator training. The Company will make a good faith effort to see that this increment is paid before the student’s departure for Operating Experience.
The reimbursement for expenses will not be paid for any period of time that training is interrupted and the pilot is not assigned to training for any reason.
Falcon will also pick up the accommodations charges at the Extended Stay Inn or provide a bedroom in a company apartment during the training period. Should you desire to arrange your own accommodations, at your own expense, that is your choice.
The training is scheduled for a minimum of 46 days. We need you on the line as soon as possible, so it is in Falcon Air’s best interest to move the training along. There is no guarantee that the training will be conducted on that schedule, but that is the plan. Most training weeks will be six days. The availability of instructors and simulator time may extend the training further than 46 days, but that is something that Falcon does not completely control.
Your OE will be paid at the hourly FO pay rate of $51.30 per hour. When you complete your OE, you will be on guarantee of 67 hours per month.
Once qualified, Per diem is payable at $1.50 per hour Domestic (North America) or $2.20 per hour International (Central & South America and the Caribbean). Per diem is paid only for overnight trips where a hotel stay is involved. During day (or night) trips where no overnight hotel stays are utilized there is a ten dollar per day override as a meal allowance. Falcon does not normally cater the aircraft, so we encourage crewmembers to bring their own food on flights.
Management is working on shared cost group medical insurance for the Mesa Base, it is not currently available.
If you wish to be considered for one of the available First Officer slots in the upcoming class, please send a completed Falcon Air Express Application, as explained above, to XXX


Once we have your qualifications and other information, we will contact you for an interview, probably by phone. If we elect, we will contact you to take a pre-employment drug test. Once that is complete, there may be additional interviews and we will make a decision. If you are a successful candidate, we will assign you to a class.

Noticed on the "Orange" web site that that Falcon is looking for MD83 F/Os.

Let me guess.

Either Falcon is expanding:rolleyes:; or

They can't hang on to their F/Os:mad:

They probably can't keep their First Officers due to the airline's lack of cognac and breadsticks.

They probably can't keep their First Officers due to the airline's lack of cognac and breadsticks.

Guess you'll never see cognac nor breadsticks on that RJ of yours.

Guess you'll never see cognac nor breadsticks on that RJ of yours.

Wouldn't know. Haven't flown it in years.

...rest of post deleted....not worth it for blowhards.

Guess you'll never see cognac nor breadsticks on that RJ of yours.


RAWR!!!!!!!!

Wouldn't know. Haven't flown it in years.

...rest of post deleted....not worth it for blowhards.

Well isn't that special.

For those who may be interested, it looks like some improvements have been made since the last person posted their offer letter.

Pay Rates: First Officer $51.25/hr, Captain $71.25/hr, Guarantee: 67 hrs/Month, Days off per month: 8, Medical.Yes, employee only, 50% of premium payed by company, Family can be added on at your own cost. United Health Care Direct Deposit..None, 401k..None

Work Rules: Effective 5/1/12
FLIGHT DECK AND CABIN CREW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES The following are the policies and procedures for the Falcon Air (The Company) Flight Deck and Cabin Crewmembers (Crewmembers/Employee). The policies and procedures outlined below will serve as a guideline for both the Company and Crewmembers. The Company reserves the right to deviate from these policies and procedures. Deviations may occur in the event Operational realities of the Company have significantly changed requiring a deviation from the policies and procedures listed below. Deviations from previously established policies and procedures shall take affect May 1, 2012. Those policies and procedures unchanged by this document shall remain in place. 1. PAY SCALE: Upon the completion of 18 consecutive months with the Company, each crewmember shall receive an hourly pay increase of 5%. This increase shall be automatically applicable to all Crewmembers whose hire date preceded November, 2010. Every 12 consecutive months after the original 18 months, each crewmember shall receive a pay increase of 2.5%. This increase shall not automatically be applied retroactively to all employees and shall begin to accumulate 5/1/12 for those employees who are eligible for the above mentioned increase. 1. GUARANTEE: Crewmembers, on full-time status, will be paid sixty-seven (67) hours of guarantee per month. Initial New Hire Crewmembers will be placed on guarantee, for the seat assigned, on their OE completion date. 1. LONGETIVITY: The Company will maintain a crewmember longevity list. Crewmember longevity will be assigned based on the date of hire (first day of training). Longevity within each training class will be based on age, with the oldest achieving longevity first. Longevity will be used for Crew day off bid line award, reserve assignment and vacations awards. FLIGHT DECK AND CABIN CREW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES 1. MINIMUM FLIGHT CREDIT: Crewmembers are guaranteed a minimum of two (2.5) credit hours per day for any flight and/or training duty assigned by the Company and which the Crewmember reports for. Pilot Initial New Hire training pay is $1,500 USD per month. Lodging for those who do not live in the training area will be provided by the Company. Pilots who are type rated for Falcon Air equipment (MD-80) will be required to sign a training bond and a three (3) year commitment to the Company. 1. COMMERCIAL CREDIT: Crewmembers required to deadhead or commercial to/from a flight or series of flights will be credited half (1/2) the scheduled commercial flight time. Commercial deadheading shall not apply to a Crewmember traveling from his/her assigned base to their place of residence and back. Commercial deadheading shall apply in the event the Company has required the Crewmember to travel from his/her base to another Falcon base. Commercial deadheading shall apply at the above rate in the event a Crewmember is required to deadhead on a Falcon flight in order to meet FAR

The Company reserves the right to deviate from these policies and procedures. Deviations may occur in the event Operational realities of the Company have significantly changed requiring a deviation from the policies and procedures listed.

No point in reading any further.

No point in reading any further.

"Cattywompus" would be an accurate one word description.

No point in reading any further.

Bingo! It's hard to shead the bottom feeder lable with alpha numerics on an 8 1/2 by 11 piece of paper.

"Cattywompus" would be an accurate one word description.
Even though there was no point in reading further, I did anyway. I also note the three years' indentured servitude.

Cattywompus, like whoa.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you get a 4 year degree and avoid the DUIs.

Believe it or not, Mesa Airlines has very similar language written into its contract. Something like "based on the needs of the company", and "at the discrection of the company." and that was written and agreed upon by ALPA.

Believe it or not, Mesa Airlines has very similar language written into its contract. Something like "based on the needs of the company", and "at the discrection of the company." and that was written and agreed upon by ALPA.
I'm relatively sure CommutAir does as well...I seem to remember seeing that among the other endless amount of crap the MEC agreed to.

Ahh I still remember those ALPA roadshows...the MEC guys saying "trust us" about everything. :rolleyes:

Falcon Air is Expanding in the Caribbean. They need pilots, but the Venezuelan owner, Mr. Ramiz is cheap and does not believe on taking care of their pilots during training. I know pilots that are presently in ground school who have not being paid their first $750 per Diem check for successfully completing their first phase of training. They were supposed to be paid two weeks ago. The same situation happened with the previous class which received their first check three weeks later, as well as the class prior to them. When the pilots complained that they could not afford to keep training without pay, they got the excuse from Rick Semon, Director of Training, and Tom Olsen, Manager of Flight Standards, that the owner was very concerned because he had to replace an engine. The same excuse and lie was given to the previous classes. My friend is about to quit the job with three other pilots for the same reason. Falcon usually hires 10 people per class, but they loose pilots during training due to their lack of integrity.

Even though Falcon sent the following information prior to ground school, the pilots do not get paid on time. It is ridiculous since they also ask you to sign an 18 month non-prorated contract for 20K non-rated MD-80 pilots and 6K rated pilots.

Falcon Air will pay fifty dollars ($50.00) per day during training to pay for a pilot’s meals and
other expenses for the period of time from the first day of ground school until all simulator
training is complete. This pay will not be paid for any periods of time where training is suspended or an individual is not in MIA and available for training for any reason. The reimbursement for expenses will be paid in the following manner:
1. Upon successful completion of the first 15 days of training, the initial increment of $750.00 will be paid.
2. Upon successful completion of the second 15 days of training the second increment of $750.00 will be paid.
3. Upon successful completion of all simulator training the third increment will be paid up from the 30th day of training until the last day of simulator training. The Company will
make a good faith effort to see that this increment is paid before the student’s departure for Operating Experience.

Reading a book about Benjamin Franklin and he has a quote that says "If you lay down with dogs you will get up with fleas". Seems that anyone applying to a place like Falcon shouldn't be surprised to find poor management and questionable payroll.

Reading a book about Benjamin Franklin and he has a quote that says "If you lay down with dogs you will get up with fleas". Seems that anyone applying to a place like Falcon shouldn't be surprised to find poor management and questionable payroll.

I agree 100%. I am just thankful that we have resources like apc.com to alert of these mismanaged companies....

heard they had a couple of classes lately...any one go though it recently?

How do you apply???? PM me if anyone knows.

Same crappy terms and conditions?

How do you apply???? PM me if anyone knows.
maybe instead of a PM, I should buy you a drink. :)

How do you apply???? PM me if anyone knows.

Sigh...

Filler

If you are a low time Pilot looking to get some heavy metal experience, you will probably get it there. Here comes the "BUT"....

To many BUT's to even describe here. On second thought.. DO NOT EVEN BOTHER. SEEK EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE

See ya at Bryson's next time I'm in MIA!!!! :)