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iadfo
01-23-2012, 05:24 AM
I have a copy of the Feb IAH 737 lines and am trying to figure out where I will sit. Can anybody shed some light on how these employee #s work? Anybody know the employee # of the senior UA newhire? Or # of someone in in the first couple of classes?


LifeNtheFstLne
01-23-2012, 06:00 AM
I have a copy of the Feb IAH 737 lines and am trying to figure out where I will sit. Can anybody shed some light on how these employee #s work? Anybody know the employee # of the senior UA newhire? Or # of someone in in the first couple of classes?

I believe UAL re-treads started at employee number N59XX

APC225
01-23-2012, 06:42 AM
I have a copy of the Feb IAH 737 lines and am trying to figure out where I will sit. Can anybody shed some light on how these employee #s work? Anybody know the employee # of the senior UA newhire? Or # of someone in in the first couple of classes?
In very general terms employee numbers with a letter at the end are very senior, with no letter are of midrange seniority, and a letter at the beginning are 1998 to current.

The most senior UAL new hire is a 747 CA voluntary furlough. Not sure that helps. You're probably looking for the most senior non-voluntary furlough.

If you have access to CCS you can see Feb staffing from one of the pull down menus.


socalflyboy
01-23-2012, 07:37 AM
In very general terms employee numbers with a letter at the end are very senior, with no letter are of midrange seniority, and a letter at the beginning are 1998 to current.

The most senior UAL new hire is a 747 CA voluntary furlough. Not sure that helps. You're probably looking for the most senior non-voluntary furlough.

If you have access to CCS you can see Feb staffing from one of the pull down menus.
Actually, employee numbers with a letter at the END is a strong inidcator that they are a scab..however, NOT ALL with a letter at the end are scabs..but a very high percentage are...but yes, they are senior as you mentioned.

A320
01-23-2012, 08:40 AM
So what happens when the LUAL side starts to recall and a bunch that went to the LCal side up and leave to come back. That is going to put Jeff's crank in a ringer won't it?

APC225
01-23-2012, 08:46 AM
I have a copy of the Feb IAH 737 lines and am trying to figure out where I will sit. Can anybody shed some light on how these employee #s work? Anybody know the employee # of the senior UA newhire? Or # of someone in in the first couple of classes?
The monthly award which you've got is published in seniority order. You should be able to see where you fit in by looking at the top left number of each line which is the employee number.

Tony Nelson
01-23-2012, 08:56 AM
So what happens when the LUAL side starts to recall and a bunch that went to the LCal side up and leave to come back. That is going to put Jeff's crank in a ringer won't it?

Yes it will.

JMD16
01-23-2012, 09:08 AM
I have a copy of the Feb IAH 737 lines and am trying to figure out where I will sit. Can anybody shed some light on how these employee #s work? Anybody know the employee # of the senior UA newhire? Or # of someone in in the first couple of classes?

N5980 was the number of the #1 pilot in the first class. IE N5980-5991 for the first class.

iadfo
01-23-2012, 01:12 PM
N5980 was the number of the #1 pilot in the first class. IE N5980-5991 for the first class.

Good thats what I was looking for, thanks.

iadfo
01-23-2012, 01:15 PM
In very general terms employee numbers with a letter at the end are very senior, with no letter are of midrange seniority, and a letter at the beginning are 1998 to current.

The most senior UAL new hire is a 747 CA voluntary furlough. Not sure that helps. You're probably looking for the most senior non-voluntary furlough.

If you have access to CCS you can see Feb staffing from one of the pull down menus.

Their UA position is really irrelevant at CAL, he will still only be about 30 numbers senior to me at CAL until the list is merged.

Point99orbetter
01-24-2012, 07:38 PM
Yes it will.
No it won't. Junior pilot training/retraining is NOT on Jeff's radar, nor does he care.

EWRflyr
01-26-2012, 07:49 AM
The monthly award which you've got is published in seniority order. You should be able to see where you fit in by looking at the top left number of each line which is the employee number.

More importantly how about looking at the base and/or the system seniority number that comes out with that award. Employee numbers are all over the place with that list. However, I'm sure it helps UAL guys to know the starting point on the list to figure it out (i.e. N59##).

Bugs
01-31-2012, 11:01 AM
Anyone have a condensed contract or scheduling rules for CAL they can share with the group? I am thinking of accepting the CAL job offer as well. Hired 1 May 2000 at UAL. I am concerned about being displaced from IAH or EWR within a year of moving to my base. Trying to find someplace where my kids can finish high school without me having to commute.

Ottopilot
01-31-2012, 11:07 AM
The union gave out a Jepp size condensed contract for the last crappy contract. I don't know if they have anymore. I used mine when I ran out of TP.

APC225
01-31-2012, 11:25 AM
Anyone have a condensed contract or scheduling rules for CAL they can share with the group? I am thinking of accepting the CAL job offer as well. Hired 1 May 2000 at UAL. I am concerned about being displaced from IAH or EWR within a year of moving to my base. Trying to find someplace where my kids can finish high school without me having to commute.
This thread has a lot of good info in it

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cal-ual-merger/64510-ual-work-rules.html

I posted "Summer of Dreams" from the union there, a three page summary of the low-hanging fruit of abuses and your rights.

DaMnad
01-31-2012, 02:44 PM
Bugs,

With over 600 guys behind you on the UAL list and the retirements starting later this year and the seat movement that will create I would think it would be relatively safe for you to take a spot in IAH or EWR and feel safe about having the option to stay there. The only issue for you might be what happens when UAL starts recalling. I would assume that by the time they got to you you might have built up enough CAL longevity that staying there wouldn't be such an issue.

Good luck.

XHooker
01-31-2012, 04:55 PM
I am thinking of accepting the CAL job offer as well. Hired 1 May 2000 at UAL. I am concerned about being displaced from IAH or EWR within a year of moving to my base. Trying to find someplace where my kids can finish high school without me having to commute.I wouldn't be too concerned about either base. We won't know the direction things are going exactly until a couple of years after the SLI, but I'd bet my job both bases will remain very large. EWR will remain an international gateway and probably pretty junior, though there might be an influx of LUAL pilots who were displaced from NYC over the past few years. IAH is more senior right now, but I don't see many UAL pilots winding up there. I don't know what the long term outlook for long haul international flying will be in IAH. Generally, IAH is cheap, warm, senior... EWR expensive, cold, junior. If you have any questions about where to go, feel free to start a thread, you'll get lots of opinions.