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Old 07-05-2008, 11:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Part 135 VFR operation

I have an offer to fly for a 135 company, VFR operations.
The good thing about is that I can make about 1000 hrs in one year as PIC in a twin.
But the flights are really short in time, .2 to .6, no x-country flights, no night flight, no IFR time.
That can be good for my future ???? After a year I will have 1500 TT, but will not meet the x-country and IFR requirements for ATP

Any opinions ????
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As always, a lot depends on your other options. If this is your only option, then go for it. The multi time looks good and maybe you can fill in the blanks, later.
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have an offer to fly for a 135 company, VFR operations.
The good thing about is that I can make about 1000 hrs in one year as PIC in a twin.
But the flights are really short in time, .2 to .6, no x-country flights, no night flight, no IFR time.
That can be good for my future ???? After a year I will have 1500 TT, but will not meet the x-country and IFR requirements for ATP

Any opinions ????
Knowing how hard it is to build time at an hour a flight - I was shocked to think that you could make a 1000 hrs in one year at .2-.6 per flight. Now I know nothing about Part 135 operations - but that seems like an awful lots of time. Are you sure that you would be pulling down that much time?

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Old 07-05-2008, 03:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This a company in the caribbean islands. They fly a lot, from 6am till 6pm, going back and for to different islands. Already have some friends they flew there and did about 1000 hrs in a year.
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This a company in the caribbean islands. They fly a lot, from 6am till 6pm, going back and for to different islands. Already have some friends they flew there and did about 1000 hrs in a year.
Hey - I'm with you......I looked into those jobs back in the late 80's and didn't come close to finding a job

I just figured that you'd have to be flying almost 3 hrs a day every day of the year and at the .2 to .6 you mention that is a lot of flying!

I wish I could a 1000 a year
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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CDN,

From the FAA FAR:

Cliff Notes: Greater than 50 miles and land at a different airport than you took off = Cross county time. A couple of the islands need to be at least 50 miles, about a .3/.4 flight depending on speed.



(3) Cross-country time means --

(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(3) (ii), (iii), (iv), and (v) of this section, time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;

(B) Conducted in an aircraft;

(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and

(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.

(ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate, a commercial pilot certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under §61.101(c), time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;

(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.

(iii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for any pilot certificate with a rotorcraft category rating or an instrument-helicopter rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges, in a rotorcraft, under §61.101(c), time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;

(B) That includes a point of landing that was at least a straight-line distance of more than 25 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.

(iv) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements for an airline transport pilot certificate (except with a rotorcraft category rating), time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;

(B) That is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems.

(v) For a military pilot who qualifies for a commercial pilot certificate (except with a rotorcraft category rating) under §61.73 of this part, time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted in an appropriate aircraft;

(B) That is at least a straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and

(C) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, but that 50 miles only matters if you're logging that time towards a rating. For the ATP, you can only "count" (though all the time can be logged X-C) what's over 50 miles.

Cross-country is anytime you land somewhere other than where you took off, regardless of distance.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Well, i know that working there i can build up many hours of PIC multi, then i'll work to log x-country for my ATP.
Hope in 1 year with more experience, and more TT i will have more oportinities than now.
Tomorrow i'm starting the ground and next week flight training.
Hope will be a nice experience flying in the caribbean area.

Thx, for your comments...
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(3) Cross-country time means --

(i) Except as provided in paragraphs (b)(3) (ii), (iii), (iv), and (v) of this section, time acquired during a flight --

(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;

(B) Conducted in an aircraft;

(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and

(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.

(ii) For the purpose of meeting the aeronautical experience requirements (except for a rotorcraft category rating), for a private pilot certificate, a commercial pilot certificate, or an instrument rating, or for the purpose of exercising recreational pilot privileges (except in a rotorcraft) under §61.101(c), time acquired during a flight --
For the x-c time to count for the ATP all that is required is that it is point A to point B. No mileage is required. The only ratings for which miileage applies, are the private, commercial or instrument. ATP allows all A to B and even some round trips over a distance without landing at the round robin point.
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Not true. Go look up the end of that section and you will see that is also applies to an ATP. I originally believed you could log it all for ATP as well, but after some research, found that it has the 50 nm stipulation as well.
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