fly4unclesam

If I use my military flying to meet FAA requirements (BFR, currency, etc), does it need to be in a civilian logbook or is it fine to just have AF documents to prove it was done?

Twin Wasp

It's all in 61.51-

§ 61.51 Pilot logbooks.

(a) Training time and aeronautical experience. Each person must document and record the following time in a manner acceptable to the Administrator:
(1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part.
(2) The aeronautical experience required for meeting the recent flight experience requirements of this part.
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109(b) of this chapter.
(2) Type of pilot experience or training—
(i) Solo.
(ii) Pilot in command.
(iii) Second in command.
(iv) Flight and ground training received from an authorized instructor.
(v) Training received in a flight simulator or flight training device from an authorized instructor.
(3) Conditions of flight—
(i) Day or night.
(ii) Actual instrument.
(iii) Simulated instrument conditions in flight, a flight simulator, or a flight training device.

So if your military paperwork has the when, where, what stuff listed above, it's good. As for the FR I'm guessing you're using some Air Force PC in lieu of the one hour ground, one hour flight. As long as you can explain what the paper says, that it gives you some flight privilege, you're covered. Expect some head scratching. I've only had one BFR in 34 years of flying. At the glider club I fly at, we get a yearly card saying we're up to date and good to fly. I find an airline pilot/CFIG to sign mine, explaining why I don't have a BFR to a pure glider CFI can take longer than the flight review would.

rickair7777

There is no requirement to maintain an official, storebought logbook. You just need to posses document(s) which contain the required info. They could be written in crayon on a brick if you wanted.

atpcliff

Hi!

Get an electronic logbook and log EVERYTHING in that. Keep a couple of elec backups in different places, and then print out your logbook every 6 months or so to have a paper backup, and something for interviews, for those who want to look at a paper logbook.

cliff
NBO
PS-There are a bunch of differnent electronic logbooks. The best one for PC is logbookpro. I think the good MAC one is logten, or something like that.

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fly4unclesam

All,

Thanks for the replies. I have bought a copy of Logbook Pro and am tranferring my flightime into it.

navigatro

In my humble opinion, it is a waste of time and money.

Military guys only need a rip from the flight records people. (for an interview etc.)

However, some people enjoy keeping a logbook, so go for it.

atpcliff

Hi!

The elog is best when you have to fill out a grid of some kind. It is TONS easier to break out your flying time when you can do a lot of it w/ the elec reports.

Oh, and if they ask for P1(us), that is when you are training for PIC Under the Supervison of an instructor, or you're already rated/qualified as PIC and you are manipulating the controls as an SIC Under the Supervision of a PIC qualified pilot. It is all SIC overall. A lot of foreign organizations will ask for this.

cliff
NBO

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NoyGonnaDoIt

I'm just curious. Are you aware of anything from the FAA that suggests that "crayon on brick" either is or is not "a manner acceptable to the Administrator" under 61.51(a)?

iceman49

Just take your mil time with you, as a C17 driver you should more than enough time.