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#11
KNBC - home field.
The first few thousand feet of Rwy 05 was under construction, so they had closed the entire runway.
The other section was taking off on Rwy 14 when they aborted and fouled the runway. They **said** blown tire.
I've always hated single runway operations.
USMCFLYR
The first few thousand feet of Rwy 05 was under construction, so they had closed the entire runway.
The other section was taking off on Rwy 14 when they aborted and fouled the runway. They **said** blown tire.
I've always hated single runway operations.
USMCFLYR
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KNBC - home field.
The first few thousand feet of Rwy 05 was under construction, so they had closed the entire runway.
The other section was taking off on Rwy 14 when they aborted and fouled the runway. They **said** blown tire.
I've always hated single runway operations.
USMCFLYR
The first few thousand feet of Rwy 05 was under construction, so they had closed the entire runway.
The other section was taking off on Rwy 14 when they aborted and fouled the runway. They **said** blown tire.
I've always hated single runway operations.
USMCFLYR
Were they taking off 32, mid morning?
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#16
That is how I would calculate it, but if you are looking for a legal interpretation, I'm afraid it isn't that clear. I'm not aware of a regulation that states that you can't burn into your reserve fuel while holding. I wouldn't do it, but I've heard tales of those who have. The whole fuel to destination+fuel to alternate+reserve fuel is a preflight planning number. Having met that requirement, once you take off that regulation no longer applies.
Once airborne, airlines simply have a calculated fuel-on-deck number at which you declare an emergency...1200-1800 is typical for RJs.
How close you actually want to get to that number depends on Wx.
#17
That is how I would calculate it, but if you are looking for a legal interpretation, I'm afraid it isn't that clear. I'm not aware of a regulation that states that you can't burn into your reserve fuel while holding. I wouldn't do it, but I've heard tales of those who have. The whole fuel to destination+fuel to alternate+reserve fuel is a preflight planning number. Having met that requirement, once you take off that regulation no longer applies.
You start with one number on preflight, that number can and will vary with the circumstances unique to every flight.
#18
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If it's ATC required holding (not wx at mins), and you are going to land at the destination with the greatest of success once ATC releases you:
Bingo = reserves+burn to destination+grandma
If rvr is floating in and out of mins or your dealing with any severe wx:
Bingo= reserves+burn to destination+burn to alternate airport+grandma.
Know that an alternate airport is not always required, but can or cannot be prudent based on the situation.
A diversionary airport is something that comes out of "real life", not planning, that is always prudent if you're into the whole "plan b" thing, and things are looking questionable. In other words a diversionary airport is not an alternate airport and both have their place.
Bingo = reserves+burn to destination+grandma
If rvr is floating in and out of mins or your dealing with any severe wx:
Bingo= reserves+burn to destination+burn to alternate airport+grandma.
Know that an alternate airport is not always required, but can or cannot be prudent based on the situation.
A diversionary airport is something that comes out of "real life", not planning, that is always prudent if you're into the whole "plan b" thing, and things are looking questionable. In other words a diversionary airport is not an alternate airport and both have their place.
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Sorry, just felt compelled to add something irreverent (and irrelevant). Now back to the legitimate conversation...
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