Cfi/tour
11-26-2014, 11:40 AM
#1
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Cfi/tour
The big question that I would like to know is; If I am a CFI and conduct a first flight training flight, in which I give instruction but also act as a tour guide, is the flight to be conducted under 91?
I am hoping that by asking this question I will be able to answer whether or not the regulation 119.1 (e) 1 and 3 would exclude me from needing a 135, or 136 certificate to conduct this flight because of the possible "tour" aspect of the flight.
Any insight would be great.
I am hoping that by asking this question I will be able to answer whether or not the regulation 119.1 (e) 1 and 3 would exclude me from needing a 135, or 136 certificate to conduct this flight because of the possible "tour" aspect of the flight.
Any insight would be great.
11-26-2014, 06:55 PM
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If you takeoff and land at the same airport and operate within 25nm of said airport, that falls within the definition of an "air tour" flight (not 135). If you provide instruction during the flight, then it could certainly be an instructional flight.
You might need a Part 91 LOA from the FSDO for conducting air tours. Recommend you contact your local FSDO.
If the purpose is transportation from A to B, now we're talking air carrier. Research the term "holding out" to the public....
Hope this helps
You might need a Part 91 LOA from the FSDO for conducting air tours. Recommend you contact your local FSDO.
If the purpose is transportation from A to B, now we're talking air carrier. Research the term "holding out" to the public....
Hope this helps
11-29-2014, 05:44 PM
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It would be entirely legit to conduct an intro training flight (aka discovery flight) while also pointing out local sights.
However...if the FSDO asked your customers what they were doing, they'd better be at least entertaining the possibility of learning to fly. And hopefully some of your disco flight customers have actually signed up as regular students. Any advertising you're doing had better be all about flight training.
If you think you're going to game the regulations and run a an air tour op under the guise of flight instruction, think again. As dumb as the FAA might be, they're smarter than a brand new CFI and they've seen it all before. Also any legit certificate holders in your area will dime you out the moment they get a inkling of what you're doing.
However...if the FSDO asked your customers what they were doing, they'd better be at least entertaining the possibility of learning to fly. And hopefully some of your disco flight customers have actually signed up as regular students. Any advertising you're doing had better be all about flight training.
If you think you're going to game the regulations and run a an air tour op under the guise of flight instruction, think again. As dumb as the FAA might be, they're smarter than a brand new CFI and they've seen it all before. Also any legit certificate holders in your area will dime you out the moment they get a inkling of what you're doing.
