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Old 10-10-2007, 03:16 PM
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I've been using Logbook Pro religiously for awhile. I love how even without ADPL I can import my trips from Sabre using their website. So far I believe it's very accurate. I remember going through it line by line prior to my interview here. I had found errors between it in my paper logbook and corrected. Since being hired here, almost 7 months ago, I have yet to put anything into my paper logbook. It feels as if they have become obsolete.

Has anyone gone to an interview with just their electronic logbook? Logbook pro allows you to print it out in logbook format. I was flying with a captain for our company who said he went to Kinkos and had them bind it and everything and it was under $20 sign, sealed, delivered. I have yet to print it out myself however I was curious because there is the, "I agree that everything listed above is true and correct" or something along those lines based on what logbook you use.

Is electronic the way to go or do I still need to keep everything up to date on paper? Electronic seems more safe as I can email myself, put on USB keys, etc so I always have one that's available. Should something happen now I can just go back into Sabre and load it all back in. Deal or no deal on strait electronic?
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:48 PM
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I recently interviewed with a national airline and I only brought my printed copy of Safelog. I haven't had an updated paper logbook in 3 years.
I printed it out with my endorsements on green paper and spiral bound it at Kinko's with a vinyl cover. It cost about $25.
The chief pilot asked me a few questions about it, but ended up liking it in the end because it's much easier to read. I also marked all of my checkrides with sticky tabs. I was offered the job two weeks later.
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I transfered all my flight time to a homemade Excel logbook 10 years ago. Lucky I did, all my paper log books were stolen, along with my rental car, flight bag and suit case a few years ago while on a job interview. Since I started using Safelog, printed it and had it bound. I have recently been on a number of interviews and all have commented on how well they like the format, no one has asked anything about my paper logs. I've also been offered a couple jobs. Paper, IMO, is going the way of the dinosaurs. Additionally I personally know of people that have been hired at all the majors used electronic logbooks. However, you should have a printed copy to show. A little tacky booting up the laptop.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:25 AM
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I plann on printing everything out and having it bound. Possibly in a small leatherbinder where future pages can be added. I have included every single entry from my previous logbooks. I don't have my previous logbooks anymore. During training at Hobby airport my truck was broken into one night. The only thing they took was my flight case. Got a systems manual, POH/Contract, and my logbook. I had dark tint and it was up under the seat so I know it wasn't whhy they initially broke in but it is what they managed to find and take. I was going to say that if they wanted a paper logbook I'd go buy one and start entering everything now. Would probably take a month or two of doing it on days off as being a CFI I had 4-5 entries a day. Thanks for the input.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by daytonaflyer View Post
I recently interviewed with a national airline and I only brought my printed copy of Safelog. I haven't had an updated paper logbook in 3 years.
I printed it out with my endorsements on green paper and spiral bound it at Kinko's with a vinyl cover. It cost about $25.
The chief pilot asked me a few questions about it, but ended up liking it in the end because it's much easier to read. I also marked all of my checkrides with sticky tabs. I was offered the job two weeks later.
BTW congrats on the job!!! Hope everything goes well for you.
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I interviewed with SWA and UPS using the electronic logbook. I did bring my originals but they never opened them. For UPS, I emailed the file to Kinko's (owned by FDX) and had it printed and bound. It looked great and wasn't an issue. Cost less than $15.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:38 PM
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Slice with your bound book can you update it with new pages or do you have to get it reprinted and rebound each time?
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
Slice with your bound book can you update it with new pages or do you have to get it reprinted and rebound each time?
You can take it back and have pages added. I don't plan on looking for a new job, so I'm not too worried about it.
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For you guys with electronic logbooks, what are the fields that you use or have printed?

Mine is also homemade excel, but made to match the exact format of the USN style aviator's logbook. Of note that is missing from that format is the takeoff and landing locations, or the associated cross country times from non-local flights.

What is the printed format? IE, do you fill up the printed page with flights regardless of time period, or do you put in page breaks by month or some other interval?
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I printed the standard ones you'd see on the average Jepp logbook unless it was category I never used. I printed a running book in chronological order. Starting at flight 1 so the page breaks were random.
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