PRIA - Details
11-11-2014, 02:15 AM
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PRIA - Details
Does a new hire first officer oral exam failure at a regional airline from 15 years ago show up on pria reports?
If I recall correctly, an FO oral at a regional (prior to the SIC type rating) was not a requirement, just an extra step the airline did.
How far does pria go back?
Does this need to be disclosed prior to an interview?
If I recall correctly, an FO oral at a regional (prior to the SIC type rating) was not a requirement, just an extra step the airline did.
How far does pria go back?
Does this need to be disclosed prior to an interview?
11-11-2014, 05:17 AM
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If your potential employers wants a complete history of your company training records, then the oral bust very well might be on there. As far as PRIA, if your potential employer wants your complete PRIA file from the FAA, then if you received a pink slip during that oral, they will see it. I would request a complete history of your training record from your current company, and a complete PRIA history from the FAA, if anything to verify they are no mistakes in your files. If it was 15 years ago tho, I seriously doubt any interviewer is going to care. Good luck.
11-11-2014, 06:08 AM
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This will show up on your FOIA from the FAA and (maybe) your PRIA depending if the airline even still has your record. Up until a few years ago airlines were not required to keep them longer than 5 years. The only way to get exactly what the airline will see is to do a FOIA and PRIA check on yourself. Its not exactly free but It will give you the "truth"
11-11-2014, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by swamp
As far as PRIA, if your potential employer wants your complete PRIA file from the FAA, then if you received a pink slip during that oral, they will see it.
If it was 15 years ago, BEORE FO's were getting typed, and the oral was unsat/failed, it would STILL show up on a PRIA.
Assuming of course, the previous airline STILL keeps records that go back that far and doesn't just furnish the required time span.
11-11-2014, 07:13 AM
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Exactly. Don't even think about trying to scam the system in an attempt to outsmart what you think they will see. This rediculous notion that you have to be flawless to get hired needs to go away. A few little things like that (and the occasional ticket, etc) are valueable interview stories and prove honesty, especially if they don't show up on their end. Trying to go all hot shot with a "y'all ain't got nothing on me" mentality has gotten many guys yanked out of class or canned their first year because a lot of stuff does eventually show up. There is nothing to gain from trying to game the system like that. Fess up. Period. End of discussion.
11-11-2014, 08:30 AM
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If anything, failing an oral 15 years ago, with a subsequent clean record, gives you one of your easier answers/discussions at an interview.
They will ask if you've ever had an problems in training, and you can relax and tell them that yes, you did have a problem once, 15 years ago, and you learned from that experience, and haven't had any significant troubles for 15 years.
They will ask if you've ever had an problems in training, and you can relax and tell them that yes, you did have a problem once, 15 years ago, and you learned from that experience, and haven't had any significant troubles for 15 years.
11-11-2014, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LoudFastRules
If anything, failing an oral 15 years ago, with a subsequent clean record, gives you one of your easier answers/discussions at an interview.
They will ask if you've ever had an problems in training, and you can relax and tell them that yes, you did have a problem once, 15 years ago, and you learned from that experience, and haven't had any significant troubles for 15 years.
They will ask if you've ever had an problems in training, and you can relax and tell them that yes, you did have a problem once, 15 years ago, and you learned from that experience, and haven't had any significant troubles for 15 years.
It's an EXCELLENT TMAAT scenario where one may have made a mistake, been under stress and how they coped/what they learned/how they bettered thenselves, etc. And when answered properly, checks off A LOT of boxes in the "hire" column of the people doing the interview.
11-11-2014, 12:52 PM
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The new electronic PRIA will cover records from the inception of pilot training until the FAA receives notice the pilot is deceased. Decades old records are contained on microfiche and are being converted to an electronic format- in the future, one click gets it all. The five year rule is eliminated. Records previously eligible to be expunged will now be retained.
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