Trufactor7

o ok..do you know when they expect to be finish with the heavy check and deliver the a/c ?

VF32TomCat

Anyone have new Info on Centurion Air Cargo?

Blowtorch joc

Centurion hired some Gemini pilots to do their initial traning and proving runs on the MD11.

El Guapo

What is the relationship between Cielos and Centurion? Also, is it true CWC bought Tradewinds?

Blowtorch joc

They are owned by the same conglomerit, Sky leasing purchased Tradewinds which is also part of that conglomerit. Centurion use to be Challenge air Cargo until UPS bought them in 2000 in fact its the same certificate they just changed their name and kept on flying but only ACMI. Some pilots have been their for 24 years.

Thedude

My intel tells me they have put a bid in on TDX along with a couple of other companies, telling me it not a done deal yet. We will find out in the next few days.

El Guapo

So who actually owns Centurion? Sky Leasing?

Blowtorch joc

Google says AMC Alliance Management Center, out of Miami Fl.

OpsControl

701 is apparently going to Centurion. It is (was) due for a C-Check sometime in September 08. That C-Check was needed even when it still flew for Gemini.

702 is the aircraft in TPA. Was in C-Check when Gemini ceased ops, but C-Check was nearly done. It was missing an engine though. One of the wing motors was removed and shipped over to Europe to fix a blown motor on 705.
My understanding is that 702 will be going to WOA

703 and 705 just went over to TPE for C-Check and paint, both of them are supposed to go to WOA. 703 was due a scheduled C-Check anyway (somehow August 22 comes up in my head as the expiration date of the last C-Check). 705 actually had a C-Check done earlier in the year, but was taken to TPE also/anyway, for paint AND in order to give WOA a 'clean' aircraft...

One of the lingering questions is how Centurion so quickly should be able to get an MD11 onto their certificate. I didn't think they were ATOS compliant with their DC10s, and in that case, adding the MD11 would have meant that their DC10s would have to be made ATOS compliant also if they added a different type to the certificate. That would mean a lengthy process to get it approved by the FAA... BUT it could be that my 'ATOS understanding' is just too rudimentary....

Blowtorch joc

In regards to ATOS cmpliance, neather was Gemini and they operated 4 MD11's. The deadline to be fully ATOS compliant has not been determined yet.....I think, but then again what do I know.