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Old 09-16-2008, 10:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Ah yes. I forgot that we have to reinvent the wheel each time we get a new aircraft. Forget that the 777 has been around for years, we must start our training program from scratch because nobody else has a clue how to fly it. Ignorance is bliss.
It's the FedEx way. I flew with an ex-United guy who was helping put the 757 program together. FedEx wanted to build their own program. United offered their FAA approved program for $80,000 bucks and 4 type ratings to get our guys going. (Not sure what the cost of the 4 types was going to be) But, as of the day I flew with this guy FedEx has spent almost $2,000,000.00 on designing their own non certified program.

I'm sure FedEx is handling the 777 the same way....
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:05 AM   #52 (permalink)
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It's the FedEx way. I flew with an ex-United guy who was helping put the 757 program together. FedEx wanted to build their own program. United offered their FAA approved program for $80,000 bucks and 4 type ratings to get our guys going. (Not sure what the cost of the 4 types was going to be) But, as of the day I flew with this guy FedEx has spent almost $2,000,000.00 on designing their own non certified program.

I'm sure FedEx is handling the 777 the same way....
That's because FedEx trains the military way--gotta cram 1 month of training into 3 months. United's program didn't have the 10 FTDs, 10 sims and 10 LOFTS that it takes to train a FedEx aviator.
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Aren't these guys that are going to 777 training now with the promise of a flex/standards job working in opposition to the efforts of the NC to get a 777 pay rate? Didn't those guys learn anything from the 757 stand-up fiasco?

I say let's negotiate 2 different pay scales; one for folks that go to training after we get a pay scale and another for the independent contractors that tried to take care of themselves at the expense of the rest of us?

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Old 09-16-2008, 12:24 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Aren't these guys that are going to 777 training now with the promise of a flex/standards job working in opposition to the efforts of the NC to get a 777 pay rate? Didn't those guys learn anything from the 757 stand-up fiasco?
Mark, you ignorant slut...Did you not read the earlier posts? We can't wait to negotiate a payscale, until the instructors have "stood up" the training program. It's not like the company has had enough time to negotiate a payscale with us. We just ordered them!! 2 years ago. Gosh, wake up.

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I say let's negotiate 2 different pay scales; one for folks that go to training after we get a pay scale and another for the independent contractors that tried to take care of themselves at the expense of the rest of us?

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Old 09-16-2008, 03:24 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Mark, you ignorant slut....
I SURE hope you guys are boyfriends

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