FDX - For All The Slow Learners
10-07-2008, 03:17 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by BOYCAPTAIN
i have an idea...screw em...let them fly 15 time zones at once for airbus pay...why give the old geezers another payraise anyway?...they will keel over quicker and we move up the seniority list that much faster.....
10-07-2008, 03:53 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
I guess you are right and everyone else is wrong.
The slots will be filled whether cliffy bids it or not. I don't blame him. The only thing the union says is bid it only if you are willing to fly it for bus pay. To me, it sounds very similar to hong kong is only targeting a specific demographic.
Me, I'm not bidding either.
10-07-2008, 04:02 PM
#54
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The Blame Game.....
Originally Posted by Cliffy170
.....If I follow the ALPA sheep and miss out on my life's opportunity who can I blame, you?
instead of always looking for someone ELSE to blame for decisions that YOU make - just make a decision based on the best information you have at the time, and then live with whatever the consequences or rewards may turn out to be.
no one has a crystal ball. no one can predict in advance with 100% accuracy the outcome of all their decisions.
it's called personal responsibility - a rare commodity these days.
go ahead and bid the 777 - but don't look for anyone to blame but yourself when the results of your actions come back less than desireable.
And, usually, when you find yourself rationalizing and defending your actions even before you have taken them - that's usually a pretty good sign you're headed down the wrong road in the first place.
philosophy lesson for the day - complete.
10-07-2008, 04:15 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Me, I'm not bidding either.
10-07-2008, 04:25 PM
#56
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
WOW!!! How much more senior do you think the most junior F/O will be in relation to you. One thousand, two thousand, or three thousand numbers? I am impressed by your stand on the issue!!!
That said, the real underlying point of my post is the Union thinks some demographics are more important to fight for than others. Unfortunately you are in the category they fight for. Is there a better indication of what is wrong with ALPA?
10-07-2008, 05:29 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Let me get this straight! You guys worked as hard as you could to throw the senior guys under the bus. Now you junior guys, that are not even close to being able to hold the 777 are now threatening the senior guys if they dare bid it.
10-07-2008, 06:19 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN
Ahem, in the meantime we have peer pressure to exert, get the word out; shun the oldsters who bid the 777. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice..well, we know how the LOA for foreign domiciles turned out.
10-07-2008, 07:24 PM
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I'm trying to understand the implications of this thread, and although I don't plan to bid the Trip 7, I'm finding it difficult to follow all the "logic" that's been bounced around here. With that in mind, could someone please let me know, of the top 2 or 3 hundred guys (in seniority order), how many of them are: 1) over 60; and 2) between 55 and 60. I ask these questions because from reading this thread, it seems that most, if not all of the guys here seem to think that it's only guys whom you have affectionately named "The Near Deads" who will fly the 777. So thanks in advance for your helping me get a better understanding of this contentious issue.
10-07-2008, 07:40 PM
#60
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
I'm trying to understand the implications of this thread, and although I don't plan to bid the Trip 7, I'm finding it difficult to follow all the "logic" that's been bounced around here. With that in mind, could someone please let me know, of the top 2 or 3 hundred guys (in seniority order), how many of them are: 1) over 60; and 2) between 55 and 60. I ask these questions because from reading this thread, it seems that most, if not all of the guys here seem to think that it's only guys whom you have affectionately named "The Near Deads" who will fly the 777. So thanks in advance for your helping me get a better understanding of this contentious issue.
But who knows?!
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