kronan

There is illegal and there's unethical and there's just plain wrong.

Had you jumped on a FedEx flight back to the planet to save the bank-no one would have any issues with what you did.
But, sounds like you elected to come home early-big benefit to you-but, didn't want to pay out of pocket for the privilege of traveling on a heavier travel day (thus the more expensive ticket).

Just me speaking, but, paying the 200$ out of pocket to get home early would have been worth it to me---and, just how much bank did you leave on the table for the month?

Again, nothing illegal about it since you didn't jump on jetblue with a ticket in hand for a later flight.
But, IMO, majority of commuters out there would tell you it's just plain wrong. Spend the extra $$ to get home early, or stay closer to the scheduled DH if the $$ is that big of an issue.

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BOYCAPTAIN

i am trying to figure this out....you were in PR for business(trip with FDX) and because you didn't have enough bank $ on your deviation choice you took a jumpseat and somehow it became a personal trip????...OK

R1200RT

I live in Memphis I don't need any bank. I think my bank has $60 bucks left. I completely disagree with you.

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R1200RT

When it's my personal money we are talking about it's personal. And like I said the crew I rode with knew exactly what I was doing. So did the ticket agent.

By the way Jet Blue was a great ride. The sat TV was very cool.

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Tuck

Why in the world would anyone think this is illegal? Not sure about that United OMC travel thing but talk to any United pilots and they will certainly give you a different opinion. I have traveled on United several times jumpseating to work and told the crew that - in fact that's usually what the Captain asks as in "So are you heading to work?". That's what they expect. I would guess that the great majority of non-United personnel using jumpseat privileges are commuting to/from work - just ask some of your United friends who they seem to carry in the jumpseat.

So taken further, what about all the ANC guys or the HKG or previous Subic guys - were they not supposed to travel on anyone except FDX unless they were buying a ticket? Whether you have bank or not is between you and your own ethics and I don't think anyone wants to hear a bunch of blowhards tell someone how wrong it is - question was is it illegal?

purple101

If you are on that airline to get to or from somewhere your company requires you to be, that airline should be getting paid. The exception would be between your home and your domicile. Where you live is your personal choice and not a requirement of your employer.

FedEx has the same policy. If they extend a discount to an another airline's employees, that is for the employee's personal use. If they own a mail order catalog or run a business selling stuff on Ebay they should not use their discount for that.

The Jet Blue Pilots may have said that they did not care but I am pretty sure their management is not in the business of moving other company's employees around for free.

FedEx has a responsibility to get you back to domicile. It is a cost of doing business. Why did NWA get paid to get you back to domicile but Jet Blue didn't.

Your rationalization concerning money out of your own pocket does not hold any water.

Jet Blue's management does not know or care anything about your bank or lack there of. All they know is that they carried out FedEx's responsibility to get you back to domicile, and they did it for free.

I say all this because regardles of your actions, you certainly should be careful of how you verbilize them.

NotsoFast

Oh This is great. What a waste of time. I had a Continental pilot on my jumpseat the other day, I forgot to ask if this was personal. Maybe we could have stuck an overnight label on his forehead and got a few bucks.

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R1200RT

Man I tell the truth and don't knowingly do anything wrong, and I still don't think I did. I had deviated and I was on my own. I'm not sure what the warning is about. There is not a commuter that hasn't jump seated to save some bank to get to work or home.

I don't commute anymore, but I know it goes on and always has and will. In most cases the airlines get all the bank money one way or another we don't profit from left over bank. In the big scheme of things I'd bet it works out great for the airlines. They may not get it on one flight but some other guy probably saved his bank to ride on the airline that didn't get paid the first time.

I just don't think that 90% (more like 100%) of our commuters are unethical and/or immoral.

Whatever it takes to make a pilot's personal life better I think falls under the spirit of why we have the privilege in the first place.

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BOYCAPTAIN

who started this thread?

R1200RT

You did on the phone this morning.

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