There were quite a few complaints about the FO curve, just not necessarily from the FO's.
I was one of those, and that is why I take exception to those that would paint our stances based solely on our seniority numbers, particularly when we are doing at least our fair share. Right is right, no matter where you are on the list. That is what being in a union is about. Guess I'm a collectivist.
I am sure you will not feel to bad when you continue to work and I don't.....
I'm sure I will. Obviously, you don't know a thing about me. You think that this is my first carnival? I've been left in the list, and kicked off the list during my 30 year career. I think I have earned the empathy merit badge.
Actually, we are still overstaffed. We have a couple of hundred guys from the 8 not working and getting paid. Block hours are going down and will still probably go down next year. The economy might be stablizing, but big brown has figured out how to run the system with fewer flights, thus fewer crews.
They have done this with every opportunity ,Teamsters Strike ,911, economy pull back, anytime they get pushed they look at the entire system and tighten it up and do more with less.
The main point: our mechanics may get released into self-help during our next bid period (10-01). Are you ready financially if they strike? Will you support them?
Personally, I hope so. Our mechanics have a lot more brass than us. They're raising the bar. They haven't lost sight of their target.
Are they released in the next bid period, 09-07 from 8 Nov - 5 Dec, or the one after that, 10-01?
What have they done before around here, cancel flights for lack of maintenance support or cancel our paychecks when we refuse to cross a picket line?
Here's hoping the mechanics can preserve their jobs and avoid outsourcing our heavy maintenance overseas. We can see how well that's worked at other carriers that use overseas maintenance with little or no FAA oversight, yikes!
The main point: our mechanics may get released into self-help during our next bid period (10-01). Are you ready financially if they strike? Will you support them?
Personally, I hope so. Our mechanics have a lot more brass than us. They're raising the bar. They haven't lost sight of their target.
JE,
The IPA supported the Teamsters for 15 days in 1997. The contractual provision that allows that support is in Article 1.A.5.
I cannot imagine why the IPA woul not support a legal strike. Besides, who would be signing off the airworthiness safety releases? No one would want to fly the jets anyway. Get your point though, get financial house in order.
"The parties agree that for the duration of this Agreement no sympathy strike, or observance of picket lines established by employees of a company unrelated to United Parcel Service Co., shall be permitted or authorized by this Agreement. This prohibition shall not be applicable to legal primary picket lines established by employees of the Company, its parent or their
subsidiaries or any other employer which is providing a service in connection with the operation of the Company's aircraft. The recognition of any legal primary picket line or sympathy strike allowed under this paragraph must be authorized by the Association. The Railway Labor Act shall govern the parties'
rights to take economic action.
Are they released in the next bid period, 09-07 from 8 Nov - 5 Dec, or the one after that, 10-01?
What have they done before around here, cancel flights for lack of maintenance support or cancel our paychecks when we refuse to cross a picket line?
Here's hoping the mechanics can preserve their jobs and avoid outsourcing our heavy maintenance overseas. We can see how well that's worked at other carriers that use overseas maintenance with little or no FAA oversight, yikes!
The last time with the Teamsters.
1. We did not cross
2. We offered to stay in position until strike was over, the company refused and kicked people out of hotels most people got a jumpseat home.
3. If you had a pairing during the strike you did not get paid for it.
4. When the strike was over it was a mess getting things back up and running, to say that management was stressed would be an understatement, they had just gotten handed their heads on a national , fully televised way.
5. Management , non union , pilots flew during the strike and moved mostly empty airplanes around for show.
6. The company screwed with the drivers for years in any vindictive way they could.
The main point: our mechanics may get released into self-help during our next bid period (10-01). Are you ready financially if they strike? Will you support them?
Personally, I hope so. Our mechanics have a lot more brass than us. They're raising the bar. They haven't lost sight of their target.
I agree with your point about getting your financial house in order, but I really don't think that they would get released next bid period. Even with a labor-friendly admin in Washington, I'm sure that the feeling there is that the economy is still too fragile to be releasing anyone. I don't see it happening next bid period.
I agree with your point about getting your financial house in order, but I really don't think that they would get released next bid period. Even with a labor-friendly admin in Washington, I'm sure that the feeling there is that the economy is still too fragile to be releasing anyone. I don't see it happening next bid period.
The labor friendly admin might just release them because the company wouldn't be able to take it, thus almost insuring a settlement prior to the end of the cooling off period. If they make it about health care benefits and keeping jobs in America it might be over fast, at least it would line up with the current tone in D.C.
I have my strike fund ready.
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