Actually, my buddy thought it was laughable that we would dispute a sequence like that. They've been flying flight sequences like that for years, with no problems. He should know, he's been there for over 20 years.
As far as being an "independent contractor," I do support ALPA. It's called dues, and that's all the support I or any of us are obligated to give them unless we're engaged in an official job action, i.e, self help. In exchange for that money, I expect them to do their jobs representing us without any further action by or expectation of us. If you choose to offer additional support to ALPA in the form of certain actions or personal decisions, then that is your call. I respect that, and have no problem with it unless it's illegal or is something that could hurt the company which pays all of us our paychecks. For those of us who don't feel we owe anything more than dues to ALPA or any of it's committees (SIG,) and choose to fly extra, boost BLGs, be happy with the job or otherwise be supportive of the company, then just let us do our thing and show the same respect.
I think your #1 problem is you really don't see the big picture...WE are ALPA. There is no "them"!!!
Unless you're a non-member, of course.
Okay, fine. If WE are ALPA, then why aren't they checking with US before they dispute a pairing or do anything else. All I get is a bunch of communications telling me what was done, but I don't recall ever getting a vote on it, other than for the FDA LOA (I voted against it,) and the contract itself (I voted for it.) When it comes to things like retirement, insurance, scope and the like, I do tend to trust the union, because I'm not an expert in any of those areas. Building pairings, and scheduling in general, on the other hand is pretty simple, so yeah, I'm pretty sure that the SIG people aren't any smarter than I am.
In any case, it doesn't matter any more. It's apparent that not only is it not okay to DO anything that doesn't go along with the "screw the company, FedEx sucks" mentality, it's also not okay to QUESTION that mentality, the union, or anything else. Furthermore, it's also apparent that just because some people don't like it here means that it's not okay for anyone else to be happy and enjoy their jobs. Since that pretty well knocks out any chance of a rational discussion, I'll go back to just being an anonymous fly on the wall. For those of you who were cordial and polite in your disagreement with me, thank you. For those of you who couldn't do more than throw insults, up yours.
Kden,
How is not flying a DP bad for the company is there not a procedure in place agreed to by the union and the company? I am very happy here and I am nice to other employees "I was once one of them" but I would never knowingly fly a DP. There is no reason to fly one and it only hurts the unions position. Also, I have a wife and kids so yes while I like to fly airplanes both small and large I also want to spend time with my family. It seems you are single and like to roam the planet all month and while that is fun for now it will change when you have kids.
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Okay, fine. If WE are ALPA, then why aren't they checking with US before they dispute a pairing or do anything else. All I get is a bunch of communications telling me what was done, but I don't recall ever getting a vote on it, other than for the FDA LOA (I voted against it,) and the contract itself (I voted for it.) When it comes to things like retirement, insurance, scope and the like, I do tend to trust the union, because I'm not an expert in any of those areas. Building pairings, and scheduling in general, on the other hand is pretty simple, so yeah, I'm pretty sure that the SIG people aren't any smarter than I am.
In any case, it doesn't matter any more. It's apparent that not only is it not okay to DO anything that doesn't go along with the "screw the company, FedEx sucks" mentality, it's also not okay to QUESTION that mentality, the union, or anything else. Furthermore, it's also apparent that just because some people don't like it here means that it's not okay for anyone else to be happy and enjoy their jobs. Since that pretty well knocks out any chance of a rational discussion, I'll go back to just being an anonymous fly on the wall. For those of you who were cordial and polite in your disagreement with me, thank you. For those of you who couldn't do more than throw insults, up yours.
If WE are the government why aren't they checking with US every time they enact new laws? Do you get to vote on "Universal Health Care"?
Do you see how stupid your question is?
And where do you get this "screw the company, FedEx sucks" mentality from. How many people on this board espousing that? It seems to me, in your opinion, that if we aren't just falling down at FedEx management's feet we are out to burn down the house.
I think you are the one that has difficulty with rational discussion and the "up yours" only enhances that opinion!
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Okay, fine. If WE are ALPA, then why aren't they checking with US before they dispute a pairing or do anything else.
You're right. They should get on the horn and call 4600 pilots every month before the disputes are decided.
You're not happy with them telling you what they did? Did you write or call the SIG or your block rep to start a dialogue about your concerns? Sounds like you expect your elected reps to contact you and ask your permission to do the job you already said isn't for you. I remember you saying you didn't 'do desk jobs'. How can you be intimately involved in the process when you don't want to be in the process?
This has got to be some kind of put on.
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...Building pairings, and scheduling in general, on the other hand is pretty simple, so yeah, I'm pretty sure that the SIG people aren't any smarter than I am....
I've met many guys on the SIG and they all seem very smart ---- in fact, I'm amazed how often they have scheduling insights I never imagined.
Additionally, I think one of the biggest benefits of the SIG is their group synergy ---- that old idea that two (or more) heads are better than one.
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