eventually be another strike, which nobody around here is scared to do.
PtP
Thanks for the great explanations. It's nice to know that you guys are unified and are trying contract improvements.
A couple other questions if you don't mind....
1) What would you say are the average days off per month for a jr line holder?
2) How does vacation work? Is there trip touching, golden days, etc? Or do you only get to drop the number of flying days that you are using vacation for? (ie 7 days of vacation means 7 days of flying off.)
3) I've read you guys are trying for business class intl DHing. What are the chances of that happening?
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Thanks for the great explanations. It's nice to know that you guys are unified and are trying contract improvements.
A couple other questions if you don't mind....
1) What would you say are the average days off per month for a jr line holder? 12-14 It really depends around here on many different variables. You just bid what you wnat and you may get it, i.e. a junior guy with 16-17 days off. People around here bid different ways every month for many reasons, such as pay, the amount of commercials to live flights on the pairing, long layovers, layover cities, certain days off, split lines, more days off, less days off,.... You may have an open line with the first 12 days off and not get called on until the 15th or 18th and maybe not used for the entire length of available days.
2) How does vacation work? Is there trip touching, golden days, etc? Or do you only get to drop the number of flying days that you are using vacation for? (ie 7 days of vacation means 7 days of flying off.)Vacation is a stupid system. You have 2 weeks of vac for the first 5 years and then it goes up from there. It doesn't work like any airline system you've ever seen. It's a pro-rated system based on how many days of vac for the month you have and how many your available to the company. Who needs vacation when you can bid the last 14 days of one month and the first 15 days of for the following month, for example. To hard to explain the system in writing and hopefully it will be changed in negs, but I doubt it.
3) I've read you guys are trying for business class intl DHing. What are the chances of that happening?
It is wanted by the majority and there is no reason that shouldn't be accomplished along with a nice pay increase, especially for FO/ROs; We are 2/3 of the voting membership.
think middle seat in coach deadheading all over the world 1/2 the month... that's life at World.. some long range/ACMI type airlines have "Business Class" travel as part of their contract for a reason.
I actually work at World and that's not my life at World....We have the ability to book our own tickets. I always book my own, even on reserve/open trips, and I try to book Delta or a SkyTeam Airline(my main status carrier/alliance, currently Platinum might make Diamond this year, all miles earned from commuting). I have not had a middle seat in a long long time(probably since we quit using Rafi), and in some cases I use some of my miles to upgrade to business on International flights, but not often because I am saving my miles to use for a family trip to New Zealand next year. Every now and then the flight I booked will be canceled by our travel dept. in lieu of the dreaded cheaper consolidator ticket, but I've been lucky to still get a decent seat and usually a SkyTeam or Star Alliance carrier for mileage earnings. I have a good feeling we will get business class in some aspect in our next contract.
.... There is only one other place I would leave here to fly at, maybe; That's a big maybe. UPS is no longer one of them either.... PtP
Palmtree,
Took the opportunity to highlight what UPS management will so arrogantly respond "who cares".
They still make nearly $4 billion profit a year. That is all they see and if it wasn't for inertia, they would already be out of business.
Except that they make money, tough to recommend UPS anymore.
think middle seat in coach deadheading all over the world 1/2 the month... that's life at World.. some long range/ACMI type airlines have "Business Class" travel as part of their contract for a reason.
No, Sam, that was Gemini !
To answer the OP's question, World's a great, fun place to be, and as touched on by an earlier poster, the work rules are pretty good. On the pragmatic side, World still features a defined pension plan, and I'd put World's health benefits up against almost anybody's.
Very standardized training, interesting flying to some pretty cool places [Kinshasa/Lagos excepted, here...], great crew members- and enough time at home that you're whistling when you pack to go back out. I love it.
To answer the OP's question, World's a great, fun place to be, and as touched on by an earlier poster, the work rules are pretty good. On the pragmatic side, World still features a defined pension plan, and I'd put World's health benefits up against almost anybody's.
Very standardized training, interesting flying to some pretty cool places [Kinshasa/Lagos excepted, here...], great crew members- and enough time at home that you're whistling when you pack to go back out. I love it.
Thanks 12 for the great info. The more I read and hear about World the more I hope that I am lucky enough to get hired there. My app is in and I am hoping for a break.... finally, to come my way.
How long have you been there?
Where did you come from?
Any advice on interview or things that can help me stand out in the process?
Thank you sincerely for the info. and it is great to hear good news and stories of pilots that are actually happy at their company and job!
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