We're talking hardware. Management likes to save money. Commonality in hardware saves money. And anyway, when was the last time an avionics software issue grounded a fleet? Not saying it hasn't happened...

Almost happened and company doesn't want to take that chance. They feel it is worth the extra $$ to protect the system.

Don't believe me - ask JB

I'll take your word for it. One thing I do know is that all the 75/76 hardware and software sucks. The trips are horrible. The airplanes fly like pigs. And anyone senior should bid the 777 or stay on the maddog.

And don't forget,...Anchorage is VERY cold and VERY far away and milk costs $5.75 a gallon! Go for the "toolbox"!

New guy here. Not sure about the layout of the new 767. I would make the gear handle go the other way, or else the example of the new cockpit was supposed to be on the ground, not shown in flight.

I am pretty sure it is a check flight cause the engines are shut down at 310 and 250 knots. Maybe it is a fuel sense thing.

No - that is actually what the view looks like while the a/c is sitting on the ground :rolleyes: I heard that in the 747 cockpit you can actually see the curvature of the earth :D

Attended Capt's course recently...

From multiple Flt Mgmt types the 757/767 will share the same type and crews. The first 2 767s delivered will be in the Boeing "Classic" configuration. The 3rd will have the Rockwell/Collins package installed and will be used for the STC certification. Once certified the original two will be moded. All subsequent deliveries will have the Collins package.
The 757s will continue to have the IS&S package.
Two new ULDs will be introduced into the system with the 767. An LD2 for the lowers, and a new upper deck ULD like UPS uses now. Will also be used on the A300 for better cube utilization.
Next bid late March/April time frame. Hiring will continue for years to come.

Same crews? Are they assuming same payrate?

This is going to be fun....

Same process we used in establishing 777 payrate

CBA Section 26.K. - referencing Section 3.

In section 3, the aircraft that currently have defined payrates are:

A-380

Wide Body:
B-777F
MD-10/11
DC-10
A-300/310

Narrow Body:
B-727
B-737
B-757

If/When the company introduces B-767, they will use the Section 26.K. process.

In other words, "they" (management) can't/aren't "assuming the same payrate." (as the 757) - even though they (JB) said in his letter that the 767 will be a "common type rating" with our 757