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Old 07-17-2012, 07:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This might be the most ridiculous quote I have heard in a long time.
I agree...you would think that purple is the only one's who can carry the mail ontime.....
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree...you would think that purple is the only one's who can carry the mail ontime.....
It simple, really:

If you want your product "Synchronized", use UPS.

If you want your product "On Time", use FDX.

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Old 07-17-2012, 09:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Due to the USPS being faced with the financially unsustainable model it currently operates under, this contract will be far less lucrative than it has in the past.

A contract is definitely better than NO contract, but a contract that pays out a fraction of what it used to has a trickle down effect on cost versus return for whichever company gets the award.
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Old 07-17-2012, 10:22 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I am sure if the purple dinosaurs don't want it there are plenty of other "cargo" carriers willing to move the mail....
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Sorry all you brownies but you know damn well UPS won't bid it cause it does not have enough profit margin. As for "purple dinosaurs".....While I wish my friends back at brown nothing but the best.....the purple coolaid is better in all aspects. Both still great jobs but for junior guys (and senior alike I'm sure) purple is better and guys don't complain (which trust me, after the s#!* sandwich brown fed us with the furlough, I get it and get it personally).
What say we all just get along and raise the bar in contract talks, those "snooty pax guys" are getting close to our rates again. We generate way more revenue and profit then any pax carriers and should compensated relative to that!
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Sorry all you brownies but you know damn well UPS won't bid it cause it does not have enough profit margin. As for "purple dinosaurs".....While I wish my friends back at brown nothing but the best.....the purple coolaid is better in all aspects. Both still great jobs but for junior guys (and senior alike I'm sure) purple is better and guys don't complain (which trust me, after the s#!* sandwich brown fed us with the furlough, I get it and get it personally).
What say we all just get along and raise the bar in contract talks, those "snooty pax guys" are getting close to our rates again. We generate way more revenue and profit then any pax carriers and should compensated relative to that!
I am a ups'er, we would screw it away! Typical mismanagement would find any excuse or lie to explain missed service
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Just curious, how many FQS will UPS have to hire if they get the contract?
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Sorry all you brownies but you know damn well UPS won't bid it cause it does not have enough profit margin
Then I guess management was lying to us when the Prez of the airline said that they were actively bidding on the USPS contract. We currently fly USPS packages and mail on select routes in our system anyhow (see ONT-HNL), so I don't think it's a stretch that we're bidding on even more of their business.
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If the FDX Corp - USPS contract goes to another bidder, you can be assured the carnage on Hacks Cross will be greater than that on Democrat. You don't let a $7 Billion dollar contract with penalties [to the USPS] slip away without having done your due diligence. I would also suspect we might see a completely new definition of ‘just culture’, and a major house cleaning on Democrat if this contract is lost.

The fact is, the USPS likes FDX Corp and FedEx Express because we carry our sh!t. We don’t out-source our flying. FedEx Express has control of all our crews and our own jets. Except for FDX and possibly UPS, there’s nobody else domestically capable of moving the product. Emory is gone, DHL is gone, and Atlas, Polar, Kalitta … lack the infrastructure and lift to make it happen. I’m not even sure UPS could make an immediate surge domestically to move the amount of overnight express product FedEx Express moves for the USPS. FDX holds the advantage simply due to the fact our model opts to NOT out-source, where UPS management has attempted to downsize their airline and move to out-sourcing. When FDX Corp signed the initial contract, manning and lift were both available to immediately surge to the extra daily flights, lift, and sort. System reliability in the time sensitive environment is key to the success of this contract. FDX Corp has it, and FDX has demonstrated it.
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If the FDX Corp - USPS contract goes to another bidder, you can be assured the carnage on Hacks Cross will be greater than that on Democrat. You don't let a $7 Billion dollar contract with penalties [to the USPS] slip away without having done your due diligence. I would also suspect we might see a completely new definition of ‘just culture’, and a major house cleaning on Democrat if this contract is lost.

The fact is, the USPS likes FDX Corp and FedEx Express because we carry our sh!t. We don’t out-source our flying. FedEx Express has control of all our crews and our own jets. Except for FDX and possibly UPS, there’s nobody else domestically capable of moving the product. Emory is gone, DHL is gone, and Atlas, Polar, Kalitta … lack the infrastructure and lift to make it happen. I’m not even sure UPS could make an immediate surge domestically to move the amount of overnight express product FedEx Express moves for the USPS. FDX holds the advantage simply due to the fact our model opts to NOT out-source, where UPS management has attempted to downsize their airline and move to out-sourcing. When FDX Corp signed the initial contract, manning and lift were both available to immediately surge to the extra daily flights, lift, and sort. System reliability in the time sensitive environment is key to the success of this contract. FDX Corp has it, and FDX has demonstrated it.
How do you purple guys know what UPS is capable of doing? I work here and even I don't know what they could do in a short amount of time. Don't forget - we have a mature trucking route system. Not all of the mail has to go on an airplane. If I were you guys, when Fred figures out how to fully utilize the trucking network, things will be a-changin' for you guys.

I'm hoping that things don't change all that much for you guys, because I don't think your 4a2b clause would fix the loss of flying. Good luck...
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