FDX - Deviation Bank Usage Question
12-23-2013, 04:04 PM
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CBA 8.C.2.a.
.....A deadhead associated with a carryover trip shall be credited to
the deviation bank for the bid period containing the showtime
for the deadhead.
combine this with definition of "day" above & you've got your answer
.....A deadhead associated with a carryover trip shall be credited to
the deviation bank for the bid period containing the showtime
for the deadhead.
combine this with definition of "day" above & you've got your answer
12-23-2013, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
CBA 8.C.2.a.
.....A deadhead associated with a carryover trip shall be credited to
the deviation bank for the bid period containing the showtime
for the deadhead.
combine this with definition of "day" above & you've got your answer
.....A deadhead associated with a carryover trip shall be credited to
the deviation bank for the bid period containing the showtime
for the deadhead.
combine this with definition of "day" above & you've got your answer
If you are deviating, you gotta know your show time in your local base date and time. So, be very careful with $$ associated with Bid Month Monday deadheads unless you are going as scheduled.
12-24-2013, 04:09 AM
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Deadhead bank
You can use left over money within three days of any scheduled event. ***Using left over money in the next month; needs to used within the first three days of the month and, it has to cover the entire cost of the expense. Example, you have $200 left over and you want to deviate on a trip within the first three days of the new month. As long as the deadhead ticket (or ground transportation) is less than or equal to $200, you can use it. When you file your expense report using left over money, you add the DH ticket on to the previous month's expense. In the above example, if the DH ticket was higher than $200, then there would be a negative ( balance due to company) on your expense report.
12-24-2013, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by O'DarkThirty
You can use left over money within three days of any scheduled event. ***Using left over money in the next month; needs to used within the first three days of the month and, it has to cover the entire cost of the expense. Example, you have $200 left over and you want to deviate on a trip within the first three days of the new month. As long as the deadhead ticket (or ground transportation) is less than or equal to $200, you can use it. When you file your expense report using left over money, you add the DH ticket on to the previous month's expense. In the above example, if the DH ticket was higher than $200, then there would be a negative ( balance due to company) on your expense report.
09-21-2014, 07:14 AM
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Anyone know the answer to this question? Like most things, it is not specifically addressed in the contract, therefore the company does what it wants. If you have over a 5 hour block time in deadheading on a scheduled pairing, the company is supposed to schedule you in first class. Yet they specifically schedule you on a carrier like SW, where first class doesn't even exist. How does that manage to fly?
09-21-2014, 09:47 AM
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You answered your question in the your second sentence. Our union should help you grieve it. Or maybe you can get your fleet captain to change it in the spirit of "just Culture." I seriously doubt either will happen.
09-21-2014, 10:19 AM
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Well, I think I'll ask the expense report people first and see what they say. Then talk to the union. It actually happened awhile ago and I don't need the bank, so a bank increase is irrelevant to me. But it may be something that affects others, and I figure we ought to bring attention to the company and the union when they do this kind of thing. Though I wasn't sure if this was something legal per the contract they'd been doing for a long time anyways.
09-21-2014, 11:20 AM
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I don't think there's any relief on this if they actually buy the ticket on SWA. Thanks to the Delta pull-out and the low cost locusts invading any vacuum created in the industry, we're stuck with them. Based on the contract language below, I don't see how we would have a leg to stand on, unfortunately.
8.A.4.c.v. Regardless of the class of service actually booked, a pilot’s deviation bank shall be credited with the highest class of service which is authorized on the scheduled deadhead flight, and which exists on that flight.
Now, the "right" thing to do would be to book a ticket on a carrier that actually provides the service required by the CBA. But, that gets into "intent" and we all know who wins those battles.
This is just another version of the DHs to DXB. Over 16 hours duty and should be in FC but........ let's send the boys through ATL because Delta only has Business class and they're the only ones that fly that route.
8.A.4.c.v. Regardless of the class of service actually booked, a pilot’s deviation bank shall be credited with the highest class of service which is authorized on the scheduled deadhead flight, and which exists on that flight.
Now, the "right" thing to do would be to book a ticket on a carrier that actually provides the service required by the CBA. But, that gets into "intent" and we all know who wins those battles.
This is just another version of the DHs to DXB. Over 16 hours duty and should be in FC but........ let's send the boys through ATL because Delta only has Business class and they're the only ones that fly that route.
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