FDX - New Max Open FCIF
10-24-2014, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightFlyer
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10-25-2014, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
The new paragraph, (d), simply adds a new class of prohibited activity, that is using a "personal electronic device" capable of wireless communication (cell, WiFi, Bluetooth, anything) at a flight crewmember duty station "unless the purpose is directly related to operation of the aircraft, or for emergency, safety-related, or employment-related communications, in accordance with air carrier procedures approved by the Administrator." There's no relief for non-critical phases of flight.
So, FedEx has now caught up with the FARs..
So, FedEx has now caught up with the FARs..
However, the restriction is then applied to the crewmember "from arrival at the aircraft for departure until leaving the aircraft after arrival".
So, does that mean a crewmember on break, laying in bunk can't read a Kindle or sit in a 777 pax seat and watch a DVD or step out of the flight deck and text/call to inform family of a delay?
Or, does the title of the section offer relief to those crewmembers not physically "on the flight deck" even though they haven't yet left the aircraft "after arrival"?
10-25-2014, 07:18 AM
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What if you're on a 2 hour or longer thru-flight such as the 757 SWF-LCK-IND flight? Some pilots go into the lousy crew lounge in LCK,while others stay in the jet. Can't do anything on the IPad in the jet but you can in the crew lounge?
10-25-2014, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
That makes no sense. Apparently, whoever wrote it has not read the CBA and does not understand the Open Time LOA.
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I just read your other post on the Max Open issue and I think you are correct that the Company is "now" considering the reserve period in the programming. One would assume that this means they previously did not consider it before thus all reserves were considered "available" to cover trips even if they did not have a reserve period within the showtime for the trip.
That would make my PS math easier, cut the "pool" and then the formula becomes a tougher test to see if your trip can be added to open time or not. Seems to make sense that this change makes it worse, not better even with the ratio change because you may have in some cases cut out better than half the reserves "available" as compared to using all of them. As they say YMMV.
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10-25-2014, 07:32 PM
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Slap me once, shame on you. Slap me multiple times over the last several years? Shame on me. Count me skeptical that Flt Ops management and their programming marching orders to Crew Scheduling will do ANYTHING that will help my ability to drop or trade trips & R-days this peak 2014--anticipated to be especially messy. I will be the first to eat crow if I'm wrong, but I'd put money on this being a bad deal. Any takers?
BTW, the announcement on the PFC website about Max Open Time has magically disappeared.
Catch-22 , by Joseph Heller: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."
BTW, the announcement on the PFC website about Max Open Time has magically disappeared.
Catch-22 , by Joseph Heller: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."
10-25-2014, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
can you elaborate on the issue then? thanks
I just read your other post on the Max Open issue and I think you are correct that the Company is "now" considering the reserve period in the programming. One would assume that this means they previously did not consider it before thus all reserves were considered "available" to cover trips even if they did not have a reserve period within the showtime for the trip.
That would make my PS math easier, cut the "pool" and then the formula becomes a tougher test to see if your trip can be added to open time or not. Seems to make sense that this change makes it worse, not better even with the ratio change because you may have in some cases cut out better than half the reserves "available" as compared to using all of them. As they say YMMV.
What doesn't make sense is "the impact which the programming concern [sic] RA and RB will have." The "new" method described in the FCIF is the same method that's explained in the Max Open Time LOA. If they haven't been doing it that way in the past, that should concern us. However, we should not be complaining because they've decided to comply with the LOA.
ALPA shouldn't need more than a few minutes to determine whether the changes are compliant with the CBA. The CBA is pretty clear that The Company can change the number from 2 to something less. They could choose 1.387 if they liked -- it is explicitly allowed by the CBA. What else needs to be studied to determine if the changes are compliant with the CBA?
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10-26-2014, 06:44 PM
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You're right--thanks much.
Originally Posted by Dadof6
BTW, the announcement on the PFC website about Max Open Time has magically disappeared.
Nope, it's still there. You just have to look under Admin FCIF's.
Nope, it's still there. You just have to look under Admin FCIF's.
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