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Old 05-11-2016, 09:02 AM
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This just in: the management staff at ATI just lowered the bar for you new hires. They decided to drop the obligatory sim ride because in their estimation, it doesn't really reflect the true capabilities of the applicant. So, shine your shoes, put on your Sunday best and smile.
But.......if you bust for any reason, the bust will follow you when you apply to any other carrier. Besides, once we staple you guys we will teach you the proper way of doing things.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:55 AM
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United Airlines recently dropped the simulator evaluation as well. Are they lowering the bar as well?
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Pretty much LB.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:19 AM
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SWA and Big D have not had one for years. FEDEX did away with theirs, Atlas doesn't have one. I don't know if the bars has been lowered or just normalized.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:22 AM
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FDX dropped the sim ride a while ago as well.

Airlines (I'm guessing) have decided it's not worth the added time / extra expense of making applicants go through a sim ride anymore.

If enough people wash out of training, they might bring it back.

It sounds like your mad at your outfit but the 2016 reality is most US airlines don't do sim rides as part of the interview anymore.
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Old 05-11-2016, 10:32 AM
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In defense of MC, most airlines that have dropped their sim requirement have other solid methods of determining an applicants value (whether you agree with their testing/interview process/etc. is another discussion). Companies like ATI and ABX...and I'm sure some others as well, do not have those other tools. So, without complex processes the sim can be valuable in filling the gap to determine a applicants value.

ATI & ABX use older simple interview methods of a meet with HR/CP (most of which aren't even trained well on the do's and don'ts), a little online or offline test, and then a sim. No situational based timed scenarios, no psychometric testing, etc.

Hey, we're old school and proud of it <yikes!>
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Originally Posted by skypine27 View Post
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It sounds like your mad at your outfit <Snip>.
Mad??? Nahhh, it's just mc being mc, going through his usual bout of diarrhea of the mouth.
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Yeah vroll? At least I know how to properly secure and arm the L1 door. Thanks for that contribution to our line check! Lol
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Originally Posted by abxflyr View Post
In defense of MC, most airlines that have dropped their sim requirement have other solid methods of determining an applicants value (whether you agree with their testing/interview process/etc. is another discussion). Companies like ATI and ABX...and I'm sure some others as well, do not have those other tools. So, without complex processes the sim can be valuable in filling the gap to determine a applicants value.

ATI & ABX use older simple interview methods of a meet with HR/CP (most of which aren't even trained well on the do's and don'ts), a little online or offline test, and then a sim. No situational based timed scenarios, no psychometric testing, etc.

Hey, we're old school and proud of it <yikes!>
Fyi, ABX does psychometric testing
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ATI has raised the bar now that they hire like most everyone else.
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