Don't say it can't happen
10-21-2016, 08:54 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
When they came to Rickenbacker proposing autopilots for propliners, it's claimed he replied, "what the hell am I paying the co-pilots for?"
Any automated system can fail, any pilot can die. As long as that's the case, going to need at least two qualified ATPs, even for lowly 121 supplemental.
Any automated system can fail, any pilot can die. As long as that's the case, going to need at least two qualified ATPs, even for lowly 121 supplemental.
(I read that somewhere)
10-21-2016, 08:53 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
It can't happen
The DC9 didn't have either. So I doubt they said that. Besides just like engines 2-1 is not the same as 3-1.
10-24-2016, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike from flyi
I was on an overnight in Germany when that idiot from German Wings flew the Airbus into the French ...Alps on purpose. Aside from the Americans; specifically, they wanted a flight attendant to take a pilot's seat on the flight deck any time that pilot had to be absent during a flight. Aside from the ridiculous notion that a flight attendant could stop such a determined maniac, I observed that we are moving away from the idea of unmanned flights. They would have an easier time certifying a single engine airliner.
Pretty sure, ICAO and the FAA would certify Southern for single pilot/robot operations based on this one flight attendant alone!
Biggie
10-26-2016, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggie
Years ago, Southern Air hired a single flight attendant, to perform this seat occupying position. The real pilots go back for crew rest and this guy runs back and forth between the cockpit, cooking apple pies and Germans sausage sandwiches; all the while, keep the world safe from crazy Southern Pilots! I know he was a pilot at one time, not sure of his skills anymore.
Pretty sure, ICAO and the FAA would certify Southern for single pilot/robot operations based on this one flight attendant alone!
Biggie
Pretty sure, ICAO and the FAA would certify Southern for single pilot/robot operations based on this one flight attendant alone!
Biggie
I know that.
One landing every 80 hours isn't helping that much.
10-27-2016, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike from flyi
I was on an overnight in Germany when that idiot from German Wings flew the Airbus into the French Alps on purpose. Aside from the incredulous Germans wondering how a mass murderer could have been German (go figure), they quickly focused on changing the rules to copy the Americans; specifically, they wanted a flight attendant to take a pilot's seat on the flight deck any time that pilot had to be absent during a flight. [B] Aside from the ridiculous notion that a flight attendant could stop such a determined maniac, [B] I observed that we are moving away from the idea of unmanned flights. They would have an easier time certifying a single engine airliner.
so that the other pilot can disable the culprit?
10-28-2016, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
There has always been speculation and it may come sooner than expected. From the AP (found in the Drudge Report)
The government and industry are collaborating on a program that seeks to replace the second human pilot in two-person flight crews with a robot co-pilot that never tires, gets bored, feels stressed out or gets distracted.
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The government and industry are collaborating on a program that seeks to replace the second human pilot in two-person flight crews with a robot co-pilot that never tires, gets bored, feels stressed out or gets distracted.
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11-01-2016, 08:54 AM
#28
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It might be able to happen but it won't because it will never be reliable enough to satisfy the traveling public. Dispatch reliability is Crutial to schedules and 'just in time' cargo delivery. Pilots just aren't that expensive.
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