Sun Country
#571
The chart I've seen is closer to $68/hour on 2nd year pay. I could have read it wrong though....
It's got some good points and some less good points. But I'm enjoying it for the most part. So far I haven't been able to partake in any open time flying but I hope that will change soon.
The $48/hour and not breaking guarantee definitely keeps things tight.
But other wise, yeah, the work is mostly pretty nice and I'm enjoying the people too.
I hope I'm reading the pay wrong... I'd love it to be closer to $80/hour when I hit year two pay this coming spring.
It's got some good points and some less good points. But I'm enjoying it for the most part. So far I haven't been able to partake in any open time flying but I hope that will change soon.
The $48/hour and not breaking guarantee definitely keeps things tight.
But other wise, yeah, the work is mostly pretty nice and I'm enjoying the people too.
I hope I'm reading the pay wrong... I'd love it to be closer to $80/hour when I hit year two pay this coming spring.
That being said its still a much better paying job than a regional.
#572
Sun Country is not the best paying airline. Even with the new contract, Sun Country will need to increase pay to keep up with the industry, and with the amount of hiring the rest of the industry is doing Sun Country will need to up their game to get good, quality applicants.
That being said, where SCA excels is in its culture and QOL. For someone looking to be an MSP area based pilot, the simplicity of the job and the level of enjoyment is pretty fantastic. Short term Terminal 2 parking and KCM means that you literally are ~5 minutes car to gate/crew room (Ive timed it multiple times.) While the "good old boy" feel is being outgrown (thankfully), it still has a hometown company feel. There is a great midwest work ethic, and a large commitment to the individual. While you can simply fade away into the line, you'll seldom feel like a number. The pilot group has been absolutely fantastic, and the flying is great. Its very much like being a 737 pilot as well as a BBJ Pilot in my opinion. I know not everyone enjoys the Charter element, but for many of us it means getting away from the standard airports and doing more interesting flying...many times flying around the world.
Its not perfect. Its not without its growing pains, its own BS, and its mediocre pay. That being said, for the right individual it can be a fantastic fit and a great job that (industry, economy, and management willing) could be a great place to hang your hat in the midwest and have a sweet schedule and QOL in the later half of your career.
YMMV.
That being said, where SCA excels is in its culture and QOL. For someone looking to be an MSP area based pilot, the simplicity of the job and the level of enjoyment is pretty fantastic. Short term Terminal 2 parking and KCM means that you literally are ~5 minutes car to gate/crew room (Ive timed it multiple times.) While the "good old boy" feel is being outgrown (thankfully), it still has a hometown company feel. There is a great midwest work ethic, and a large commitment to the individual. While you can simply fade away into the line, you'll seldom feel like a number. The pilot group has been absolutely fantastic, and the flying is great. Its very much like being a 737 pilot as well as a BBJ Pilot in my opinion. I know not everyone enjoys the Charter element, but for many of us it means getting away from the standard airports and doing more interesting flying...many times flying around the world.
Its not perfect. Its not without its growing pains, its own BS, and its mediocre pay. That being said, for the right individual it can be a fantastic fit and a great job that (industry, economy, and management willing) could be a great place to hang your hat in the midwest and have a sweet schedule and QOL in the later half of your career.
YMMV.
#573
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,309
Just got an invite.
Looking for reasonable estimate for second - third year pay. Still estimating three - four year upgrade? We are very excited about the possibility, but are not from MN and would be a complete family move.
Thanks!
Looking for reasonable estimate for second - third year pay. Still estimating three - four year upgrade? We are very excited about the possibility, but are not from MN and would be a complete family move.
Thanks!
#574
Second year and third year will change for you depending when you get hired because we have raises the next 4 years with the contract. If you live in base and want to work you can credit between 100-110 a month fairly constantly. In the winter months if you really want to get creative and work the contract you can do 120-140. I'd say most guys probably try to credit 80-100 hours.
You have to see where you fit in. Lines in the summer are closer to 70-75 to start out with and the winter lines can be as high as 95 credit hours...
As most would say you could probably credit 80-90 once you hold a line and can pick up open time.
#575
Around 2.5 to 3 years max at the moment for upgrades.
#576
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,309
First year is 75 hours at 48/hr
Second year and third year will change for you depending when you get hired because we have raises the next 4 years with the contract. If you live in base and want to work you can credit between 100-110 a month fairly constantly. In the winter months if you really want to get creative and work the contract you can do 120-140. I'd say most guys probably try to credit 80-100 hours.
You have to see where you fit in. Lines in the summer are closer to 70-75 to start out with and the winter lines can be as high as 95 credit hours...
As most would say you could probably credit 80-90 once you hold a line and can pick up open time.
Second year and third year will change for you depending when you get hired because we have raises the next 4 years with the contract. If you live in base and want to work you can credit between 100-110 a month fairly constantly. In the winter months if you really want to get creative and work the contract you can do 120-140. I'd say most guys probably try to credit 80-100 hours.
You have to see where you fit in. Lines in the summer are closer to 70-75 to start out with and the winter lines can be as high as 95 credit hours...
As most would say you could probably credit 80-90 once you hold a line and can pick up open time.
#577
On Reserve
Joined APC: Mar 2010
Position: 737 CA, KC-10 FE
Posts: 19
Are there any 26 Sept new-hire class attendants monitoring this thread? Are there any discussions going on elsewhere?
Also, could an employee tell me what the company policy is about flying on the side?
I was told the charter flying, because it's 121 supplemental, uses Part 117 rest rules. Might someone be able to confirm that?
Also, could an employee tell me what the company policy is about flying on the side?
I was told the charter flying, because it's 121 supplemental, uses Part 117 rest rules. Might someone be able to confirm that?
#580
It can depend on when open time comes out. If you have the ability to pick it up. With seniority and days off. I'm at 110 this month. I did 118 last month. 122 the month before. In the winter I've done 140+ and I've heard guys do the same if you work the schedule.
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