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Old 02-06-2012, 06:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I heard they sacked the COO's at both WOA and NAA a few weeks ago?

This is sad for both employee groups. I remember when the ATA/GAL/WOA thing was annouced in early 2007. It didn't sound like a good business plan. WOA essentially bought themselves for $335 million. The 2007 shareholders made out big time. Now the employees are left holding a sack of sh*t.

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Old 02-06-2012, 07:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My guess is they maintain two certificates to allow World to operate their cargo filights under existing FT/DT regulations while North American becomes the exclusive pax operator (requiring compliance with the new Part 117).
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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$315 million cash deal?
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Looking to dump the leases on half their planes.... 16 to be exact....yikes.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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757200ER - I've thought this for a while but do you have any hard evidence on your numbers? For instance NAA down to just 767's and World dumping down to just cargo MD-11's and 747's? Or just rumor right now?
As told to me by pilots from each carrier; I suppose you could say 'unconfirmed'.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:47 AM   #17 (permalink)
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My 2 cents...


5 reasons for the pain with the charter guys:

1) Obvious pull down in Iraq and Afghanistan


2) DOD previously had a 60/40 rule. 40 percent of flying had to be non DOD. They waived this during the post 9/11 build up. All DOD carriers got greedy and ignored commercial opportunities.


3) DOD slashed the rates last year. DOD carriers get paid less for doing the same thing.


4) DOD introduced new reliability rules last year. It used to be 85% three month reliability based on departure within 15 minutes. Now it’s 95% based on arrival within 2 hours. Failure to maintain 95% has resulted in financial penalty and loss of flying for the some DOD carriers. Also, less flying makes each delay carry more weight.

5) DOD team reorganization. There used to be 3 DOD teams. This year Omni left the FedEx team to start their own team. Entitlement is now split between 4 versus 3 teams. In addition Delta has decided to pick up more DOD flying and Atlas has gotten into the pax business.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I am ex ATA and got out of the business.

Good luck to all.
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Has the dust settled on this yet. Does anyone have the number of furloughed pilots and to what date of hire? NAA had a former LOT Polish 767 that was a apparently a dog, did they get rid of that a/c?
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Last I heard, the last 3 pilots due to be furloughed never did see the furlough. The 767 from LOT was indeed a D-O-G, but it got the help it needed and is flying like a charm now.
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Unhappy furloughs
Dont know about North American, but World furloughing at least 150-175 by the end of this year. Affecting some hires in 2005 and beyond.
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