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#201
Banned
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 109
While I do enjoy the kudos of others, I realize that it does not fit everyone's desires leadership wise.
Many make promises that they cannot realistically keep. I've seen that past and present.
I have not denounced any other slate. I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness. I do not make this in jest. We collectively go down a deep hole electing him and those who endorse him.
Having already stated the reasons why, I leave it to those who vote. Your are not only voting for the future contract but how we work as a group.
Many make promises that they cannot realistically keep. I've seen that past and present.
I have not denounced any other slate. I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness. I do not make this in jest. We collectively go down a deep hole electing him and those who endorse him.
Having already stated the reasons why, I leave it to those who vote. Your are not only voting for the future contract but how we work as a group.
#202
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: On My A$$
Posts: 241
While I do enjoy the kudos of others, I realize that it does not fit everyone's desires leadership wise.
Many make promises that they cannot realistically keep. I've seen that past and present.
I have not denounced any other slate. I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness. I do not make this in jest. We collectively go down a deep hole electing him and those who endorse him.
Having already stated the reasons why, I leave it to those who vote. Your are not only voting for the future contract but how we work as a group.
Many make promises that they cannot realistically keep. I've seen that past and present.
I have not denounced any other slate. I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness. I do not make this in jest. We collectively go down a deep hole electing him and those who endorse him.
Having already stated the reasons why, I leave it to those who vote. Your are not only voting for the future contract but how we work as a group.
Mr Impact,
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
#203
O.T. Freight Dog
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Former 747 Captain
Posts: 150
Mr Impact,
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
You go and pm Regis, he will tell you all about J.A.. It is ALL true and then some!
#204
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
You guys should just yell "turn down that rock and roll music" at this point. You don't like us younger guys and we bring nothing to the table. We heard you the first 1000 times you told us. Unfortunately we are a large part of the company you work for, so you're stuck with us and our crazy ways.
All thrust, no vector.
You remind me of the HS yearbook quote written by Eric Cantor; "I want what I want when I want it." Which is a great way to end up the same way he did. Sure of your rights and demands until you get your can handed to you.
You don't think everyone you smack constantly as being old and here too long to suit your upgrade desires hasn't come from thesame place? Guess again.
What has been learned while we've grown is how to accomplish things when dealing with people who don't have a need, want or desire at certain times to help you accomplish the goal. We have learned that sometimes the goal is accomplished not by ramming the front door down, but finding a side passage.
It's called compromise and nothing in the universe functions effectively without it.
I keep reading your posts and come away with the view that while you may have read your CBA, you only cherry pick specific words and clauses to fit your argument of the moment. You don't get it in it's totality. Do you understand what was AACS? Do you understand seniority and how they relate? Do you understand the impact on them, the CBA and your job?
Do you understand how the RLA really works?
Personally, absent you explaining them here, I don't believe you do. I'm certain that one of the candidates doesn't.
So are we "stuck with you and your crazy ways?" Maybe. Maybe you are one of the ones who is just here punching a ticket and collecting a paycheck until Big D calls to tell you they need a new, double breasted God. Or Big A calls you to be annointed and spend the next 15 years or so yanking gear. Beats me.
Maybe you are one of those guys who has decided that if you beat your chest, bellow at the wind and kick them hard enough in Purchase, they'll crumble and give in.
Or maybe you'll quit with the chip on your shoulder about being entitled, understand that others have a hell of a lot of knowledge that you don't. And you'll take the time to listen and learn so you understand why your job can vaporize tomorrow because of AACS.
If you do the latter, you might learn something about leverage, negotiating, the RLA and the company.
Or you can just keep wanting what you want when you want it.
Yes, you may have numbers. But you don't hold the cards. They are held in the corner office on the Third floor. And if you haven't figured that out, and figured out that they can cut you out of the hand in the blink of an eye??? Then you truly don't get it.
#205
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
Mr Impact,
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
#208
Banned
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 109
Mr Impact,
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
It is statements like yours above: "I only denounce one that has J. Alexander on it and their proposed divisiveness." that leave me speechless.
I just do not understand it. I have read there BS on their slate website and I will be dagon if I can find the divisiveness that you refer to. Now if it the same divisiveness that others have referred to that stems from 'table talk' then it is not JA and his slate that is the problem, it is you. When you make a statement such as the one above without proof you are the one dividing. When you say that our Union spent $3 or $3 million on a defense for this individual without proof, then again you are the 'divider' not the team that has stepped up to work for us.
Personally, I would prefer to publish the flight crew statements and cabin crew statements just from Alexanders recent sect. 19. Much less difficult for anyone to misinterpret Alexanders lack of character, self gratification and moral compass. Even the FNG's he covets unaware of his past could do it. I hold those reporting at high regard for not putting up with Alexander's professional and behavioral problems and don't wish them any over exposure.
I really do not have a dog in this hunt and I really do not care who you or anyone else votes for just do me and every Atlas 1224 member a favor, never mind it is a waste of time....................
Am I worried. Yes. Mostly for guys who read their slate like you did and say "I didn't see that on their site" who don't question or check them out.
This is my 6th or 7th airline and this place truly does crack me the #@!& up!
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
Where is Regis with a good video when you need him!!!!
cargo
Hope the tag works. If not go here https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=G9dCJ4LU41A
#210
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: What day is it?
Posts: 963
You guys should just yell "turn down that rock and roll music" at this point.
What I said was:
I won't speak for to the rest and what they bring, just what I see in you.
Not them...just you. Guess you missed that in the first line.
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