Making the jump to Corporate from Instructing
#11
I searched type ratings on faa.gov, and on the last page(14) there is a sample "temp certificate" for a BE-300 type, requiring a SIC, even though we all know this is a SP plane. So I would assume the VLJ's could be limited in the same fashion, but this is far from my expertise.
#12
To the OPs question - I think I'd stay instructing, keep networking, and once at 1500+ hours perhaps an operator will give you your first type and ATP all rolled into one.
#13
I searched type ratings on faa.gov, and on the last page(14) there is a sample "temp certificate" for a BE-300 type, requiring a SIC, even though we all know this is a SP plane. So I would assume the VLJ's could be limited in the same fashion, but this is far from my expertise.
The Mustang is like the CJ series - you can get typed with (CE-510S) or without (CE-510) the single pilot authorization. So even if the airplane is single pilot capable, a pilot with only a CE-510 type will need an SIC.
To the OPs question - I think I'd stay instructing, keep networking, and once at 1500+ hours perhaps an operator will give you your first type and ATP all rolled into one.
To the OPs question - I think I'd stay instructing, keep networking, and once at 1500+ hours perhaps an operator will give you your first type and ATP all rolled into one.
#14
Gear Slinger
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 27
I would like to just get some opinions on this. Since my ultimate goal is corporate and not the airlines, would it be best to take the job now or wait until I have more hours? This may seem like a no brainer for some but I just want to get some thoughts.
Thank you in advance!
Congrats on the corporate job offer. I am doing the same thing that you're considering. I had about 1000 hours when I started flying right seat in a CJ. We only fly 200-300 hours a year which gives me plenty of time to instruct part-time when I'm home and make some extra cash.
With respect to corporate aviation there is little to no reason to sweat PIC time if you are currently beginning your career. I spent nearly 2yrs in the right seat of a sim starting out. For free no less. All that to advance my knowledge of systems and CRM so that when I was capable, I could move on. Your greatest asset in any corporate department is a positive attitutde and level of flexibility for the principal. The rest will fall into place. Best of luck and let us know what you decide-
I agree with BPWI. The rest will fall into place. Since your goal is corporate, getting your foot in the door and learning how things work would be a good step for you. You can start to network as well. You will get some experience flying in different weather than you are used to and some CRM experience. AND you will become skilled in ordering coffee, ice, and newspapers.
Another thing to consider is logging the cross-country time for ATP mins. Depending on your situation (graduate from a FAA approved 141 2 or 4 year school for reduced ATP mins) it would be beneficial to log the cross country so when you hit 1500 you actually have the 500 required XC hours.
Hope all goes well with whatever you decide.
#15
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 48
FWIW, if you look at the type certificate for VLJs, you will see that if you remove your boom Mic (headset) and use the speaker and hand held, you must have an SIC even if you are single pilot typed. Google any kind of VLJ and type certificate. My source is a FED.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 610
Your King Air time didn't count because the type certificate doesn't specify two pilots. Jet type certificate's do. This link is extracted form the DPE handbook a pilot with a single pilot privilege in a light jet is not required to exercise that privilege and can operate with an sic.
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#18
Line Holder
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 53
The boss said I can instruct on the side if I'd like but told me flying the jet needed to be the priority.
For those of you still reading, I have a question. Since they don't fly the plane a whole lot, I really want to get a type rating in the plane, (it's an EMB-505). Can anyone shed light on how to go about this? I'd like to get it into a contract, but thought maybe once I get flying and show them how awesome I am *sarcasm* they would be willing to get me typed. Again, it's rated for a single pilot, but due to other limitations they need an sic. Any thoughts?
For those of you still reading, I have a question. Since they don't fly the plane a whole lot, I really want to get a type rating in the plane, (it's an EMB-505). Can anyone shed light on how to go about this? I'd like to get it into a contract, but thought maybe once I get flying and show them how awesome I am *sarcasm* they would be willing to get me typed. Again, it's rated for a single pilot, but due to other limitations they need an sic. Any thoughts?
#19
The boss said I can instruct on the side if I'd like but told me flying the jet needed to be the priority.
For those of you still reading, I have a question. Since they don't fly the plane a whole lot, I really want to get a type rating in the plane, (it's an EMB-505). Can anyone shed light on how to go about this? I'd like to get it into a contract, but thought maybe once I get flying and show them how awesome I am *sarcasm* they would be willing to get me typed. Again, it's rated for a single pilot, but due to other limitations they need an sic. Any thoughts?
For those of you still reading, I have a question. Since they don't fly the plane a whole lot, I really want to get a type rating in the plane, (it's an EMB-505). Can anyone shed light on how to go about this? I'd like to get it into a contract, but thought maybe once I get flying and show them how awesome I am *sarcasm* they would be willing to get me typed. Again, it's rated for a single pilot, but due to other limitations they need an sic. Any thoughts?
Just ask them. I would be surprised if the answer was no.
Oh and btw, no one is awesome at flying just more tolerable than the next guy(corporate rule number 1008).
Best of luck.
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