general rule for pay?
#1
general rule for pay?
Hey guys and gals!
Just a quick question that I'm sure has been asked before. If your flight department has multiple aircraft (lets say a Jet and Tprop), is there a rule of thumb for what the pay should be? Should it be captain pay for the jet plus a percentage for flying the prop? Also, the prop requires a type rating.... does that matter? Thanks a lot!
wp
Just a quick question that I'm sure has been asked before. If your flight department has multiple aircraft (lets say a Jet and Tprop), is there a rule of thumb for what the pay should be? Should it be captain pay for the jet plus a percentage for flying the prop? Also, the prop requires a type rating.... does that matter? Thanks a lot!
wp
#2
So im guessing king air 350 since we are talking prop with a type rating? Some others but this is most common. What jet? Check out the link to the 2014 pro pilot survey. If half the flying is jet half is prop id say I wouldnt take anything less than "average" for captain of the higher paying aircraft. (B350 is higher paying than many light jets, on average) Again, this is just a survey and not set in stone. Also, if you had two pilots, and now one. Then id say your pay should double if your flying just doubled. But if they used to do say 400 a year total. And now just 200 in each aircraft. Then at minimum, you should be paid the captain salary average for the higher paying aircraft, per the survey. Cost of living in the area, and other factors also then need be considered to add to that.
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#3
So im guessing king air 350 since we are talking prop with a type rating? Some others but this is most common. What jet? Check out the link to the 2014 pro pilot survey. If half the flying is jet half is prop id say I wouldnt take anything less than "average" for captain of the higher paying aircraft. (B350 is higher paying than many light jets, on average) Again, this is just a survey and not set in stone. Also, if you had two pilots, and now one. Then id say your pay should double if your flying just doubled. But if they used to do say 400 a year total. And now just 200 in each aircraft. Then at minimum, you should be paid the captain salary average for the higher paying aircraft, per the survey. Cost of living in the area, and other factors also then need be considered to add to that.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/co...ary-study.html
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/co...ary-study.html
Sounds good if not a little bias from a pilot's perspective (and not it tune with the reality of how the world works I'd guess - though I admit I'm not a corporate guy)
If he is salaried then the flying may go up and it may go down but that is the nature of t he business and he should be happy that it is solid and not dependent on actual hours. If he is a contract per hour/day, then the amount of flying would have an impact on the bottom dollar.
#4
So if the flying is doubled then the pay should be doubled, but if the flying is cut in half the pay isn't cut in half?
Sounds good if not a little bias from a pilot's perspective (and not it tune with the reality of how the world works I'd guess - though I admit I'm not a corporate guy)
If he is salaried then the flying may go up and it may go down but that is the nature of t he business and he should be happy that it is solid and not dependent on actual hours. If he is a contract per hour/day, then the amount of flying would have an impact on the bottom dollar.
Sounds good if not a little bias from a pilot's perspective (and not it tune with the reality of how the world works I'd guess - though I admit I'm not a corporate guy)
If he is salaried then the flying may go up and it may go down but that is the nature of t he business and he should be happy that it is solid and not dependent on actual hours. If he is a contract per hour/day, then the amount of flying would have an impact on the bottom dollar.
Does that make more sense?
Anyway, I re-read the OP's post. Sounds like he is a jet Capt, and now some tprop Capt. duties as well. So id say whichever aircraft typically is a higher paying Capt. salary. that should be his salary.
The way I see it, if the tprop wasnt there, he most likely would still get the same pay as being just the jet capt. Since that means the jet would be used instead of the tprop.
I can see where a company wants a jet for most its operations, and then a King air for shorter trips, or even trips with more passengers since the B350 is quite economical compared to a Cj2,3,4 etc. Especially on trips 600nm or less. (hardly any time difference) B350-2 pilot, all 9 pax sets filled or 1 pilot 10pax, bags, top the tanks off and go. Plus more room than a biz jet usually
Now if he is a contract pilot, then each aircraft would normally be a different rate per hour/day. But it sounded to me like he is a corporate pilot. Which to me implied he is an employee of the company. Job title being "pilot" obviously haha
In the corporate world, Im my expeirence (above average? from what I hear) typically its pay per year regardless of flying time. But the pay per year should be higher, if the amount of flying is higher. I think the average corp. pilot is around 300 hours a year. However, if you are flying 5 days a week like some places do, the pay is typically higher or no per deim limit etc. to compensate for the above average time away.
I had a job that was 800 hours a year, 2-3 hours a trip. So it was mostly day trips 5-6 days a week. For the piston plane we used, the pay was more like a small tprop captain pay/medium biz jet FO, because of the massive amount of time we traveled. Basically no per deim limit, company credit card, free company logo uniforms etc. Also did some non-flying duties. but nothing over the top. just stuff that was aircraft and hangar related.
Last edited by Aviator89; 06-21-2014 at 09:59 AM.
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Can anyone help with what an appropriate salary is for a brand new Cirrus located in FAA south west region, also a 70's Barron salary. Either job should allow some work on the side, but probably not enough to discount the retainer. I am thinking just pitching straight 1099 pay, no benefits. Thanks the help.
0 possibility of larger equipment coming on and no need for TT just paid to fly.
0 possibility of larger equipment coming on and no need for TT just paid to fly.
#8
Can anyone help with what an appropriate salary is for a brand new Cirrus located in FAA south west region, also a 70's Barron salary. Either job should allow some work on the side, but probably not enough to discount the retainer. I am thinking just pitching straight 1099 pay, no benefits. Thanks the help.
0 possibility of larger equipment coming on and no need for TT just paid to fly.
0 possibility of larger equipment coming on and no need for TT just paid to fly.
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My spouse has them. I thought I could gain more money if I forfeit, the free 1 years salary life insurance, accidental death and dismemberment, workman's comp,employer matched SS and medicare, plus the 1099 has other tax advantages.
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Well I had a salary gig on a 400 cessna for 46k no benefits 1099. left it to be seat meat on a cj and got screwed out of half of that job in the name of fairness because of the good ol boy buddy buddy system. I get 400/day on the CJ and 300/day + a monthly retainer on the 400. I know that probably doesn't help much but....
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